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SAS~Storebror

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XF5U-1 Test Ride
« on: October 15, 2016, 12:44:17 PM »

For those who are interested, please find a test ride of the XF5U-1 aka "Flying Pancake" or "Flying Flapjack" here:



Some things you might find interesting:
The plane has working Elevons/Tailerons and working cyclic prop movement (10 degrees max in each direction, coupled to elevator/rudder) with working flight model effects.
At about 4 minutes you can watch how the plane is virtually impossible to stall, you can "hang it in the props" with 45 degrees and more AoA.
As a result, you have a wide choice of touchdown speeds.
In this test video the touchdown was at 85mph, but you can as well touch down as fast as 130mph or as slow as ~40-50mph (in the latter case with a quite high sink rate, but that's fine if you want to land on a carrier).

Hope you enjoy the video ;)

Best regards - Mike
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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2016, 01:08:54 PM »

Wow !
This is marvellous krate, I am patiently looking forward to fly it !
Some thirty years ago I made rubber-powered peanut scale model of it,
but did not teach it to fly reasoneably then.
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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2016, 01:12:13 PM »

Recreating this FM must have been interesting.  Well done, it appears.

Cheers
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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2016, 02:17:56 PM »



Amazing  o_O  It flies pretty good.
Well done job on this aircraft guys and gals. The 3d-model looks excellent!

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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2016, 02:49:04 PM »

Great work, including some features, (e.g. prop vectoring) that were new to me. Trere is a combat mission up for this plane over on Youtube, as wel. A fascinating AC.

Gil
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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2016, 04:44:27 PM »

Great!  :) And the cyclic prop movement is very surprising ..  :o
(when not having read the text before watching the vid..    :D)
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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 08:20:44 PM »

Cool map, where is it?  8)
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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2016, 01:40:16 AM »

Thanks mates :)
Recreating this FM must have been interesting.
Yes, indeed it was.
Creating a reasonable flight model was the most complex task apart from building the 3D model itself so far (concerning the 3D model 101tfs can tell best, but from what I've seen it must have been a hell of a job too, the idea of wing part arrangement alone must have been a headache).
Without going into details too much, the process of creating the flight model required to start with two completely different flight models:
One that matches historically correct speed and climb values all across the altitude span from sea level to FL28, and another one that "feels" right in terms of roll and turn rates and at the same time has the ability to "hang in the props".
Both flight models seemed to have no match, so the task was to merge them and keep the "good" things intact from both parts.

The 3d-model looks excellent!
That's true, 101tfs did a great job again!

Cool map, where is it?  8)
It's the "Flight Test Map" by Brian Bury, AFAIK it's not available as separate download but you can extract it e.g. from DBW, Ultrapack or HSFX.
In Ultrapack FMB the map is called "2B_FlightTest".

Best regards - Mike
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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2016, 07:53:56 AM »

Funny flying for sure with that crazy "wing thing".  :D :)
After 3rd attempt finally managed to watch through that vid without interruption.

Cheers :)

Thorsten
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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2016, 08:15:37 AM »

Storebror, wonderful work, have always loved this airframe and glad it will soon be flight worthy.
One minor, and I mean minor, (cause I wouldn't have ever know had i not come across it in the cut away.)
Where you have the exhaust puff out when the engine starts is actually the cooling air exit for the engine the actual engine exhaust vents out under the aircraft.

See items 33 and 76 on the drawing.

http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fighter/f5u/f5u-2.gif
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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2016, 08:32:46 AM »

That's right sundowner.
The problem with this is that in IL-2 the startup smoke moves up in the air very quickly.
Therefore the result of putting that smoke exhaust at the belly position where it's supposed to be results in smokes moving through the wings like ghosts and eventually coming out of nowhere mid of the upper wing surface.
That's a game-wide effect thing, nothing I can do much about, that's why I decided to choose the 2nd best position for the smoke hooks.

Best regards - Mike
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Re: XF5U-1 Test Ride
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2016, 08:38:52 AM »

So at least for as smoke is concerned it doesn't see the aircraft as a solid entity.

I see your logic and as i said if i never would have looked I wouldn't have known, so props to you sir!

Hey when your done tweaking the piston version I found this in my studies.

A turbo prop version


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