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Captain Dawson

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Re: Trouble picking a new computer
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2016, 03:13:42 PM »

Now I found a Dell that looks a little "better".
i5 6400 processor 4-cores, 6MB cache, Turbo boost 2.0, up to 3.3GHz.
460 Watt power supply
NVIDA GeForce GTX960 2GB GDDR5
8 GB DDR4
1 TB 64MB Cache SATA 6Gb/sec
$980.

And then there is another one with the same processor and power supply, but with
NVIDA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5
Same memory & HD.
$1130.

Not sure if a SSD is cost effective.

i5-6400 has 1829 single thread performance points. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html That's not bad. Of course not quite as good as i7-6700, but still should be sufficient I believe.

SSDs can be expensive if you want a large one like 1TB. My 240GB SSD only cost an additional $80. If the computer doesn't come with it though, you don't necessarily need it. A SSD would only affect things like copying and file opening speeds. It doesn't directly affect the speed of programs.

A GTX 1070 is one of the most advanced ones there is now. If you don't mind paying a little more, it'd be outstanding. If you look at the price of a GTX 1070 just by itself, $1130 for a machine with it doesn't seem so bad! If I had a 1070 on my Cybertron, it would've cost me almost $1200 total, and this is with a somewhat cost-effective machine. A GTX 960 would be decent enough as well though. Both of these machines sound sufficient to me, if maybe a bit overpriced. I'm looking only at what you've shown, so don't quote me on this.

As far as power supply and such, you would need someone like Storebror to help you out. He has a much better understanding of how computer parts work.
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Re: Trouble picking a new computer
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2016, 03:38:10 PM »

A SSD would only affect things like copying and file opening speeds. It doesn't directly affect the speed of programs.

Captain Dawson's comment about SSD is a half true, but rest half I don't agree.

"Open the file" equals "Load the file" , and not short time we have to wait some of Windows or Applications processing ... come from loading files from the disk.
Power On the PC and Windows starting-up ..... Loading Windows' component files.
Execute a big application (like MS Office, Photoshop) ..... Loading that application component files and an editing data file.
Execute IL-2 1946 ..... Loading SFS files and classfiles. Loading Map terrain and texture files, Aircrafts and other objects 3D / 2D files in starting a flight mission. Loading Effect 3D / 2D files when some new effects (explosion, fire, etc.) are done in a flight.

So, in which case of your using PC style ---- many times files are loaded ?   calculating and rendering are main of PC processing and loading files is less ? ---- make difference SSD is effective or not to make your PC life comfortable.
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Re: Trouble picking a new computer
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2016, 08:23:58 PM »

Thanks....The more I learn, the more I want to learn.
Anything I get, will be 500% better than I have now, with just 256MB integrated video.

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Re: Trouble picking a new computer
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2016, 10:58:06 AM »

A SSD would only affect things like copying and file opening speeds. It doesn't directly affect the speed of programs.

Captain Dawson's comment about SSD is a half true, but rest half I don't agree.

"Open the file" equals "Load the file" , and not short time we have to wait some of Windows or Applications processing ... come from loading files from the disk.
Power On the PC and Windows starting-up ..... Loading Windows' component files.
Execute a big application (like MS Office, Photoshop) ..... Loading that application component files and an editing data file.
Execute IL-2 1946 ..... Loading SFS files and classfiles. Loading Map terrain and texture files, Aircrafts and other objects 3D / 2D files in starting a flight mission. Loading Effect 3D / 2D files when some new effects (explosion, fire, etc.) are done in a flight.

So, in which case of your using PC style ---- many times files are loaded ?   calculating and rendering are main of PC processing and loading files is less ? ---- make difference SSD is effective or not to make your PC life comfortable.

Ah, I stand corrected. Since the files will be loading faster with an SSD, anything involving opening or loading files should be faster. I was probably referring to the actual speed of IL-2 in flight. In that I've seen no difference between having an SSD and not having one, with the computers I have used anyways. But loading would be faster.

In other words, if you plan to be copying huge things like CUP or 20,000 paintschemes a lot, an SSD would be nice, though not imperative!
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