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[creature]

Hey guys,

Yes I finally did it and upgraded my video card:) 

I have been an ATI simmer since the beginning and my Radeon R7 240 ran flawless with IL2, but I was forced to upgrade due to other programs.

I recently decided to give Nvidia another chance, I upgraded to an Nvidia GTX 1050ti and my FPS are best I've ever seen.  I just cant seem to get the graphics where they were with the R7 240.  The most obvious is the Antenna lines on the planes.  I cant' seem to get rid of the "steps".

I've maxed out all the settings and still not luck.  The "steps" are small but still not as good as the older Radeon R7 240.

If any of the experienced Nvidia users have an answer for this I will appreciate it.

Thanks

C

[vpmedia]

https://www.google.hu/search?q=nvidia+anti+aliasing&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiinPWHmpbSAhVK1ywKHYzaBvgQ_AUICCgB&biw=1376&bih=826#imgrc=_

[Phas3e]

I have been having the same trouble with the GTX 1060

I previously had a GTX650 so i'm not a noob when it comes to the NVIDIA control panel but I cant get the same level or AA with all the tabs maxed out.

I will post screens of my settings and hopefully its just something simple

[creature]

vpmedia:

thanks for the link, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for in the images.  Also, my understanding (which is very low) of the Nvidia inspector is that it is no longer useful with the newer driver versions.

C

[Phas3e]

Heres my settings, you can see below the AA is kinda there, theres a difference when adjusting but I cant get it as good as it was with my old card





New Card



Old Card

[LucShep]

I suggest using Nvidia Inspector for your games if you have an Nvidia graphics card, as it opens more image quality settings than those in driver settings (so, more and better tweaking possible).

NV Inspector Download:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/NVIDIA-Inspector.shtml

NV Inspector Intro, Info and Guide:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=403676


If curious, see the attached image below with the settings I use for the IL2 profile in it.
It provides good image quality while being relatively light (good framerate):

[creature]

Will do on inspector.

LucShep,

do you know which setting in inspector will cure those "steps" on the antenna wire you see in Phas3e 's images.

Phas3e:

Thanks for posting those images,  I feel better now that someone else knows my pain.  That is my exact problem

C

[SAS~Storebror]

Phas3e's screenshots clearly show that no AA is active in the image at all.
The only AA "effect" comes from scaling down the image in the forum preview.

If your issues are the same, the solution is plain simple and you don't need no Nvidia Inspector (even though there's nothing wrong with Nvidia Inspector, it features so many settings that you'll mess it up for sure, now that you've managed to do so with the standard Nvidia Control Panel already ).

Advice: Turn off FXAA.
That's all. Turn it off and AA will work.
And while you're at it, turn off MFAA as well.

Background: FXAA is a post-rendering Anti-Aliasing Mechanism. You will see a certain "success" of Anti-Aliasing when you're actually playing the game with FXAA turned on (but text looks blurred), however since it's a post-rendering process, anything from the renderer itself will remain aliased, including screenshots.
There is no such thing like FXAA for screenshots.
On Nvidia Maxwell and Pascal cards, FXAA enabled tends to turn off any other AA mechanism for OpenGL games.
FXAA is just a makeshift solution in case your GPU cannot handle "real" AA on your rig/game.
But your card is by far powerful enough to do "normal" AA (aka MSAA) in IL-2, so please use these normal settings only.
Why turn off MFAA? Because that's really heavy on the GPU, it's just a stopgap again and the effect gained is quite small compared to well working MSAA settings.
Turn it off, really.

If you have a few more seconds to spend, I'd recommend to "allow" negative LOD bias and use "High Quality" Textures.

Best regards - Mike

[Phas3e]

and there you have it



Cheers Mike, advice taken

[creature]

Phas3e:

thats looks perfect!!  Now you can move on:))

Storbror:

Thanks for dumbing it down for me!!!  I will have time this weekend.

c

[LucShep]

Will do on inspector.

LucShep,

do you know which setting in inspector will cure those "steps" on the antenna wire you see in Phas3e 's images.

Yes, it's the Transparency Supersampling setting/option you see there as "2x Sparse Grid SuperSampling" setting.
This is an AA technique also known as "SGSSAA".

It is, of course, adjustable.

2x will look good and hardly taxing on framerate.
4x will look better even but may start to be taxing on framerate once more and more objects appear on screen.
8x will look amazing, of course, but it is taxing (noticeable framerate hit).

That, if combined with the forced AntiAliasing setting (which you see above it in the screenshot of Nvidia Inspector), say, using there something like 4x MultiSampling, or 2x SuperSampling, or "8xS" (which is a combination of both), will clean/smooth out most of the jaggies. 

For me this is important, and not only for IL2 but for many other games, when using Nvidia graphics.

I'd have to agree with Storebror that you don't have to use Nvidia Inspector (which is more complex) to access these.
But the way that this app opens and gathers so many more settings, to fine tune image quality, makes it a "must have" for tinkerers such as myself (your milleage may vary, of course).

[SAS~Storebror]

One more problem with Nvidia Inspector is that Nvidia cut many AA modes from Maxwell and Pascal cards for the sake of optimization of the more commonly used modes.
Nvidia Inspector won't care, it will offer all modes to you, working or not.
As a result, it's a try+error game on Nvidia 900 and 1000 series cards to find a working AA setting combo with Nvidia Inspector.
Not saying it's impossible, but you really need to know what you're doing, much more than if you'd have an older (700 series or earlier) GPU.

Best regards - Mike