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[Knochenlutscher]

 

[CzechTexan]

I have pulled your complete pack into my WAW and it works out, no obvious hickups, all loadouts present and no errors in the cods.
I think, I'll just integrate this package, looks good:)

Still, no joy on D gunnery for Tex...

Thanks for looking into the matter.  I did recently get the improved 3D fix and it states that there are only pilot & bombardier positions with no gunners.  I'll just have to be happy with A/I gunners, for now

[SAS~Storebror]

Gents I'm quite sure that back in the days when I did the AI flyables pack for IL-2 1946 4.12.2 / SAS Modact 5.30, I paid close attention to get all B-17D gunners working correctly.
With standin cockpits, that's granted, but still.
Did any of you check this in Modact 5.30 with the SAS AI Flyables pack yet?
Not BAT.
Not any new 3D Updates.
Pure Modact 5.30 with AI Flyables:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,37662.0.html


Mike

[CzechTexan]

yes, sir.  My VPmodpack loads with A/I Flyables 5.30 but the D has only pilot & bombardier.
I was wondering if maybe something happened to it in the VPmodpack and that maybe I should try to reinstall the Flyables.  Don't want to mess up my game though.

[CzechTexan]

I think I found what Storebror was talking about!!!!

There is an old mod (found in another one of my installs) by the name of 0B17s_cockpits_SASdl(mod for D & E).  This mod gives the D a belly gunner but that is the only gun position available for the player.  I had been using the HSFX B-17 cockpits mod and that's why I had no gunners.

EDIT:  unfortunately, with my switching and replacing of the different cockpit mods, somehow it has messed up the D and now I do not have a working D model.  haha, oh well, maybe it'll get sorted out later.  My new campaign will use the E model anyway.

Thank you Storebror for insisting about the D model because it forced me to look.

[SAS~Storebror]

Holy mackerel...



I've been talking about SAS Modact 5.30!!!
SAS frikkin' Modact with it's frikkin' builtin AI Flyables Pack!
Nuttin' else.
Got it?
Not VP.
Not any fancy addon mod.

Mike

[Knochenlutscher]

They are substituted in latest BAT Dump Files too, just not linked up in
the Slot. They have Klingon shielding, before your pointer they
where invisible, to me.
That's not just plain easy, but no, but yeah, ...



Here is the Fix added to B-17D.class in BAT  it will not work in VP, HSFX, Bla-Bla


https://www.mediafire.com/file/ikno02y234cjj4d/%2521_B-17D_Gunners_Fix.7z/file

Now time for a coffee

[Vampire_pilot]

Have you been shooting with them?
I tried this (reply #17) and it is... not great.

[SAS~Storebror]

saw the video?

[Vampire_pilot]

Man... well, did you try it in BAT?

This is NOT the same in BAT as in 5.30
The exact same thing Knoche did, I already tried a couple dozen posts ago.

The guns and the stations do NOT line up in BAT as they do in 5.30. I guess this is why they were parked away in BAT at one point. I guess the plane 3D was changed some time ago.

[CzechTexan]

The video proves it.  But now I'm wondering why my VPmodpack loads with SAS AI Flyables 5.30 but has no gunners and if it's possible to fix that??

[Flamer50]

The video proves it.  But now I'm wondering why my VPmodpack loads with SAS AI Flyables 5.30 but has no gunners and if it's possible to fix that??

Tex'
I tested this in my VPpack, removed the 'COCKPIT_B-17_HSFX7' and 'Flyable AI Classes'
folders from the install then tested the 'D' model using the 5.30 AI Classes.
I get all the positions that are available as in the video. The only position that's missing is
the dorsal guns and gunners position which was not built into the 'D' model when it was
added to the game.