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Author Topic: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.2 20181009  (Read 53249 times)

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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #120 on: March 16, 2018, 02:33:05 PM »

i just tested it and it does work...but is it realistic?  i have to deploy flaps to make coordinated turns and bombing and firing rockets. or is this just an improvised fix?
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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #121 on: March 16, 2018, 03:14:09 PM »

I remember something like this long ago with an FSX model. I don't know how 'realistic' everything is, but I quickly found this info:

'The A-6 Intruder had a "shifted" flight control system, that when the flaps are up you get a much smaller control surface throw. For example with the flaps up the rudder only moves 4 degs and when the flaps are out of the 0 detent, you get 35 degs.'

'Spoilers are used for lateral control, and the longitudinal control surface is an all-moving horizontal tail.'

'The wing had trailing-edge flaps that extended over almost the entire length of the wing, so conventional ailerons were not fitted. Lateral controls was provided at low speeds by the movements of the flaps (operating as "flaperons") and at high speeds by a series of spoilers mounted on the upper wing surface. The spoilers could be operated differentially for roll control in flight.'

I just looked these up real quick and have no basis for a definitive answer.
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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #122 on: April 22, 2018, 06:15:58 PM »

Is this public release version A-6 lost historical flightmodel against closed Beta version ?

In BAT v3.3 , A-6 shows unrealistic quick maneuver by non historical wide elevator working , once I correctly prevented in FM at closed stage.
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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #123 on: April 23, 2018, 03:30:04 AM »

I don't know if that happend (iirc I only got the BETA), but the CG distance was a bit too high to my comfort.  :P

But it's a job well done. I love this bird. 8)
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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #124 on: April 23, 2018, 07:23:10 AM »

In BAT v3.3 , A-6 shows unrealistic quick maneuver by non historical wide elevator working , once I correctly prevented in FM at closed stage.

To restore previous FM that pull max 3G??

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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #125 on: April 23, 2018, 07:43:03 AM »

In BAT v3.3 , A-6 shows unrealistic quick maneuver by non historical wide elevator working , once I correctly prevented in FM at closed stage.

To restore previous FM that pull max 3G??

I'm not sure it, but in any way, wrong approach in breaking historical simulating.
Elevator limit is historical function.

When pull max G is too less that limited degrees, its solution has to be tried by tweaking another flight parameter following historical workings written in official flight manuals.
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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #126 on: April 23, 2018, 08:09:34 AM »

Possible solutions:


increase [Arm]
increase [Square]
increase efficiency in [Params]


note, stabilizer has to be made ineffective through decreasing its [arm] and [square] to 0.1
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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #127 on: April 24, 2018, 09:18:52 AM »

As Koty said, maybe is better insert right paramenter in "arm" section and reduce elevator effectiveness.

For "arm" i not mean GCenter parameters, but right distance from center of elevators and other surfaces.

Restore old FM with elevator tricks absolutely not, the plane was unflyable.
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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #128 on: April 24, 2018, 12:19:01 PM »

oh ffs


not elevator effectivness
stabilator effectivness
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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #129 on: June 12, 2018, 09:26:36 AM »

Help, I get this plane as part of the Pathfinder update for BAT, but it seems to me that the camera for guided munition doesn't work, I switch to that camera and when i hit the 'A' to disable the autopilot so I can controlled it like with the harrier, the screen freeze and nothing happens until I press 'A' again, then the camera is locked again. ?? Next, the guided missile, when fired, also freeze in place. Any help??
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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #130 on: June 12, 2018, 10:06:11 AM »

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Re: A-6 Intruder by Ranwers - V1.0 20170907
« Reply #131 on: June 12, 2018, 10:15:50 AM »

Here ?

Not good .... giving confusing to members ....

correct fix is here.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/crpdu09czdx29kg/A6_fix.7z

Most excellent and most helpful, thanks a lot, I did not know about this fix before.
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