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Cruise missiles need balance
« on: October 21, 2017, 09:54:27 AM »

Hello lads I've notice that the cruise missiles are just a bit op. For example the Kh-20 is very efficient in destroying aircraft carriers but they usually fly directly to their target with having to worry about being intercepted by aircraft of anti-air batteries. I would suggest that the cruise missiles should use  the V-1 model since that they fly to a target and it could be intercepted by fighters and anti-air alike. If this is possible that would great, we have to have a way to defend our ships right ;)
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Re: Cruise missiles need balance
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2017, 10:43:53 AM »

I'm one of main crew in SAS updating missile functions.

I don't think such "flight profile" function is needed for Kh-20 though ..... other much modern cruise missles like Kh-22 , Kh-55 , Harpoon / SLAM are needed it indeed.
Today's missile code doesn't have any flight profile functions. All AGMs go straight to the target.

I have some plans how to implement flight profiles setting different parameters for each missiles or giving Terrain-following function in low altitude etc. , but I have too less time than too much projects touching.
More superior or urgent projects are many than cruise missile updating.

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The reason why I don't think flight profile functions is not so important for Kh-20, about its old guidance system.
Kh-20 used INS + Manual radio command guidance.
The radio commands for Kh-20 how to fly was sent from its carrier Tu-95 by the operator riding on it.
So, the carrier Tu-95 had to catch Kh-20's shape by its nose radar till hitting the target. It means Kh-20 had to fly straight from Tu-95 to the target keeping on the line of both.
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Re: Cruise missiles need balance
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2017, 01:02:02 PM »

I would say the most important thing at the moment would be allowing AA to engage the missiles... IIRC there was some talk about doing it for the KS-1 on Tu-4, by wasted? Not sure if it was just talks, or there was some actual work being done however.
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Re: Cruise missiles need balance
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2017, 01:47:51 PM »

Koty's request will be able to implement by the other side and looks easier.

Engine MOD 2.7.x 's missiles can have "Interceptable" attribute.
But that attribute might not be used by almost any AAA.

So, updating ArtilleryGeneric.class and TankGeneric.class , BigshipGeneric.class to search targets including "Missiles Interceptable" not only aircrafts .... it will be realized ?
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Re: Cruise missiles need balance
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2017, 02:28:03 PM »

don't forget the damage model ;) that also has to be done in order for it to work.


also checks in damage output... played a bit with F-104, single Kormoran sunk the Aurora protected cruiser  :-X  but not sure if that is a missile too powerful, or ship too weak.
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Re: Cruise missiles need balance
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2017, 02:36:02 PM »

Only updating AAA side as I wrote, damaged missiles will just explode their warhead instead of breaking down and crashing.

If no explosion but uncontrolled crashing to the ground is needed ..... damage calculation is newly needed.
Those functions have not been planned or implemented in missile.class .
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Re: Cruise missiles need balance
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2017, 04:30:32 PM »

well, it would only be needed for bigger missiles, such as KS-1, Kh-20,...

we could however cheat it a bit, and make those as self-guided Mistel plane-bombs...
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Re: Cruise missiles need balance
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 01:17:02 PM »

Adding new damage models on missiles maybe a harder work.
Interesting but far to imprement .....


Aside from that , I'm care the 1st asking Osian.
He is satisfied at least a half about our descriptions or not.
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