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[VonCharlie]

The cockpit of Fokker DXXI Sarja is for a lot the best cockpit in the whole simulator. Among other many details can be appreciated until the screws of the marks of the glasses.

This demonstrates that the architecture of the simulator allows to arrive at that detail level.

Why not continued working in that direction???

[SAS~Storebror]

Why not continued working in that direction?

Building a proper cockpit "from scratch" is at least as tedious as it is to build the plane itself.
The appreciation for such work however is close to zero.
That's why modders never liked to pick up such task, and with the limited resources available these days, it comes quite natural that newly introduced planes these days come along with stand-in cockpits (and lately almost always with LOD0 models "only" as well).


Mike

[Sita]

because it's quite difficult to make original and authentical cockpit ...  and is takes alot of time for it ...

but i must  say that  make pit for plane  more easy  than  make  full external model with all  internal parts  and lods

[vpmedia]

I know about at least 200 stock cockpits which were updated with better textures.

[max_thehitman]

I know about at least 200 stock cockpits which were updated with better textures.

200+plus+ stock cockpits, yes indeed!
Which VP-Media has already released in an upgrade for his "VP-Modpack". It brings much more life to the game.

Many old cockpits can look much better and brand-new if the cockpit skins are painted with more details on them.
The 3d-modeling is already done.... all they need is more detailed painted skins for cool eye-candy.

[SAS~Storebror]

I beg to differ.

Yes, making a full-featured external 3D model of an aircraft is probably harder to do than a cockpit.
Nevertheless, nowadays mod planes often come along as LOD0 "only" models, and in that case it's almost the same amount of work required for the cockpit as for the "rest" of the plane.

Cockpit Reskins are a nice thing, I like them too and they can improve the quality of an existing cockpit very much, but this differs in dimensions from implementing a completely new cockpit to replace existing "stand-in" replacements.


Mike

[WxTech]

Indeed, repaints go only so far if the underlying construct is crudely simple and/or missing obvious parts. The me, the starting point in improving the internal model concerns the canopy. Too many stock models have the canopy framing too wide and/or thick, to say nothing of the general coarseness. If nothing else was worked on, that would be a significant boost to realism. After all, the canopy is what one spends the most time looking at and through, and it impacts visibility.

If only I could work up the enthusiasm the embrace more efficient 3-D modeling software, to replace my current laborious and slow 'suite' comprising a spreadsheet for entering and visualizing the data, a calculator to *manually* calculate surface normals, and Notepad for assembling the mesh, I might be able to tackle more cockpits.

As a *sim pilot*, for me the cockpit is the most important element to get reasonably right. It supercedes uber-detailed external models which for the most part one really can only appreciate from an outside, close-up viewpoint (or at the instant before colliding with one of those intricately detailed models ).

There should be formed a 'task force' whose mission is to update stock 'pits first, then perhaps make up proper replacements for stand-in 'pits. As I've stated before, the core game's WWII content deserves highest priority if the greatest number of players are most interested in this period, which I suspect would be a safe bet.

[VonCharlie]

I imagine that their answer would be the lack of resources and time they are the fundamental cause that there is not cockpits with the modeling entirely new.

Among other things I make lamps and vitral decorations, to design them, I use AutoCad, for this reason I know for experience the time that demands the design in 3D. I also understand that this is a fans community that make their work without the appropriate remuneration.

Recently now I have deigned to write in the forum for up a group of missions that I make and play with my friends; but I take many years following the IL-2 and the work of you and I have always seen it exelente.

So, I understand perfectly because there is not better cockpits, but the encouragement to continue working in it because although it doesn't sometimes seem them there are many that it appreciates their work a lot as me.

GO S.A.S 

[Rogue Pilot]

From a Newbs viewpoint I can say when I opened up my first cockpit folder it was quite overwhelming seeing all the items that go into making up a good cockpit. The fact that all those items were also listed in a language other than my own gave me one of those "do I really want to do this" moments. So I can see where others might find it easier to drop in a ready made pit. Fortunately for me though I stuck it out and with the help of Mesh Dump I was able to get all I needed for the HSL's pit imported into 3DS Max and see what each item was. Needless to say it's far from perfect but I'm sure with time my skills will improve. Also if we had a tutorial on cockpit building it might sway others to build their own pits. I could give it a go but I think someone who has done a number of them would be able to pass on much more useful information than I ever could.

Rogue

[max_thehitman]

 

[Rogue Pilot]

Where do I sign up? 

[SAS~Storebror]

Max I've been out at "I want YOU" already