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[KingTiger503]

Hey Guys

If you have a Problems with Bombers Like Tu-95, Tu-195, Tu-22, and Other Soviet Bombers,

and  B-47, B-52 and Other American Bombers

For Example

Some Tupolev bombers can Take off the Ranway about 300 K/Mph because of the Powerful Turboprop Engine and Jet Engine under Soviet Design. and the Ranways are normal or Longer.

Some American Bombers like B-47 and B-52 are the Bigger Problems for Takeoff about 300 K/Mph because of the American-Made Jet engine Thurst are Low and it Needs for Longest Ranways, you can Test out the FMB Test for Longest Ranways.


Best Regards KT503

[4S_Vega]

I tested takeoff runs in Test Map of Jetwar, long 5000m

All AI bombers needs more than 2500m of runway.

Just Tu-22 AI can takeoff in 2200m at full load.

Full loaded B-52D needs more than 3700m.

Don't know exactly how much are longer average IL2 airfields, but the biggest part is less than 1500m, there are fields of 1200m.

Saigon airfield in Vietnam map is 2000m, don't know if there are similar airfields.

[Vampire_pilot]

Full loaded B-52D needs more than 3700m.

Yeah but who does that?
Never take a full fuel load on a B-52, you can go as low as 30% and still be all over Il-2 maps.

From what I understood from JackS, this was practice in reality even.

[western0221]

Is this topic in 2015 helpful ?


Jet-friendly maps ?
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47563.0.html

- El Sal Honic
1x 2200m, 2x 1900m, 4x 1600m concrete runways

- BB_North_Vietnam_51st
3x 2000m concrete runways
some 1500m concrete runways

- PS_South_VietNam_1968
4x 2000m concrete wide runways
some 1500m concrete runways

- PS_South_VietNam
3x 2000m concrete runways
some 1500m concrete runways

- LapLand Jet
1x 2000m , 2x 1600m concrete runways

- Korea (KGB)
8x 2000m concrete runways
.... (snip)

When the Take-off point icons are set on middle places of runways and impossible to use the full length of runways (especially KGB maps; to avoid AI bug with too long distance of the pairs) ,
we can set Taxi-to-takeoff waypoints from apron areas to the end of the runway instead of simple Takeoff waypoint in FMB.
It allows us and AIs to use full length of the runway.

[KingTiger503]

Fighter Jets and Jet Bombers are Take off Around 300 K/Mph Limit Point off the Runway, Landing when next to Impossible, It does not Excess to 400 K/Mph, Make it Extender to 6000m on the Runway, Landing 300 K/mph or 250 K/mph on the Runway Otherwise It will Overshoots, Overrun or About Landing. Just like What Happened to Flight 579 one of the B-737-800, 8 days ago, It was Bound from Moscow to Sochi, When it crash after Landing was Overrun the Runway 06. Safety Runways needs to Checks first.


Best Regards KT503

[western0221]

About aircrafts' spec sheets , Required take-off runway length column ..... a little care is needed to read.

Usually those written runway length contain spare length for abort and brake.
When an engine or some other serious mechanism failure occurs in taking-off and the running speed is not reached V1 (takeoff decision speed) , the pilot try to abort the taking-off and brake .... stop the aircraft in the rest length of the runway.
That spare length is not static number but ..... 1/4 or 1/3 of the take-off runway length number maybe.

When the aircraft's spec is 2000m take-off runway length , its real lift-up point maybe around 1500m ..... instead of 2000m.
So, in games, in ignoring abort brake spare length ,  the aircraft will be able to take-off on 1500m 's runway end.


Ah... and... SAS Engine MOD 2.8.8w had stronger wheel brake effect for heavier jet bombers or transporters.
Almost jets can land and stop in 1000 or 1200m runway lengths with realistic fuel rest.

[KingTiger503]

Ok, I just Test out a Runway about 8000m or 10000m, I Test out some B-52H for Landing The Runway with Airbrakes And Flaps and slats for Runway Landing, As Results Heavy Workloads and the Landing is Good, but A bit Bouncing The B-52H Landing Gear, Parachutes was Active and Safe.


I also Test out some Tu-195 for Landing with Flaps and Slats for Landing, as results The Tu-195 Landing is Very good no bounce at this time.

When I Landing the Runway, Checking a Speedmeter for Landing the Runway is 260 K/mph or 280K/mph,

I never test out some Other Jet Planes, but I will test some Planes sooner or Later.


Best Regards KT503

[KingTiger503]

I did Test out that Runway for Boeing 707-320B, Takeoff 300 or 330 K/Mph, If you can Test out some Runways if you Can.


Best Regards KT503