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whistler

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B.A.T. Bombsights (and tubesights) - Let's fix'em all!
« on: September 26, 2018, 06:41:42 AM »

UPDATE 13 April 2019:

DOF, TGA and WAW Bombers were taken to the hangar for B.A.T. v3.6 THE BLITZ. Some fixes worked better than others but absolutely all bombers have now working bombsights and usable bombardier stations (where applicable). Fixes were applied directly to the B.A.T. core and files cannot be provided separately because of the sheer amount of code changes between B.A.T. v3.6 THE BLITZ and standalone mods and because of non-documented interdependencies with other mods.

This project is complete but there always is room for improvement. Some bombers will be revisited and improved in the future and you can use this topic to report bombardier-related issues.

Get B.A.T. v3.6 THE BLITZ





OLD TOPIC:

4.12 broke many old mods and bombsight fixes have been surfacing slowly but steadily. For one reason or another some fixes went unnoticed to the B.A.T. crew. A bomber with a broken bombsight is pretty much useless and we won't see these heavies featuring in any missions. So much potential wasted!



How can you help?
  • Identify aircraft with broken bombsights
  • Help finding already available fixes
  • Test the fixes in your B.A.T. and report conflicts
  • Fix a broken bombsight if you dare! (we don't need historical accuracy at this point, a working crosshair is better than nothing)
I just got started with this so I ask a little patience. Many aircraft must be yet reviewed. I intend to maintain this post and update it often but I have little time.

Fixes below are already included in B.A.T. v3.5 Musketeer. The download is still available but it may get removed anytime...

All fixes below are ready to go to your B.A.T. LINEBACKER in one JSGME-ready download:

DOWNLOAD >>> !#BAT_BOMBSIGHT_FIXES_26-Sep-2018.zip

DOWNLOAD >>> !#BAT_BOMBSIGHT_FIXES_27-Sep-2018.zip




(21) FIXED BOMBSIGHTS:

B-24D Liberator (fix by Tarakan67 & Stefan SG!) - Patch 26-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13455.msg424298.html#msg424298

Douglas A20-C (I just reinstated the stock bombsight classes) - Patch 26-Sep-2018

Martin B-10B & WH1/WH2/WH3  (fix by Stefan SG!) - Patch 26-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,49014.msg639908.html#msg639908

Handley Page Hampden Mk.I (fix by SAS~Epervier!) - Patch 26-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,57054.0.html

Armstrong Whitworth Whitley MkV & MkVII (fix by Stefan SG!) - Patch 26-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,40642.msg640042.html#msg640042

Lockheed Hudson MkI & MkIII (fix by gio963tto!) - Patch 26-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,42383.0.html

Junkers Ju188A-2 (fix by western0221!) - Patch 26-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,26335.msg424308.html#msg424308

Lockheed P-38 DroopSnoot (fix by Stefan SG!) - Patch 27-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2558.msg418208.html#msg418208

Mitsubishi G3M2-11 & G3M2-22 (fix by Stefan SG!) - Patch 27-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47262.msg639909.html#msg639909

Mitsubishi G4M2A-24ko (fix by GUZKNIFE!) - Patch 27-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,30389.msg391371.html#msg391371


FIXED BUT NOT YET INCLUDED IN ANY PATCH:

Junkers Ju-388 (fix by western0221!)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,38227.0.html

Caproni Ca-133 (fix by Stefan SG!)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,39654.msg667818.html#msg667818

Caproni Ca-310 (fix by Stefan SG!)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,38086.msg667819.html#msg667819

Caproni Ca-311 & Ca-311M (fix by Stefan SG!)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47179.msg667820.html#msg667820




(18) BROKEN BOMBSIGHTS:

B-25A_Late, B-25B, B-25B_Raiders
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=13477.0

B29 Silverplate (Not that you need pinpoint accuracy to hit the mark but still...)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,7894.0.html

Wellington Mk III (*** FIX IN PROGRESS ***)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=35346.0

Junkers G-38


Ju 88A-4 Late and Ju 88A-5
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,42141.0.html

Tupolev SB2M-103
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,46693.0.html

Tupolev TB-3 4M-27 (Trans) & Tupolev TB-3 4M-34R (Trans)
Unknown origin - anyone?

Mitsubishi ki-2 (Louise)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47581.0.html

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Interesting case here, the Z.1007bis works again when reinstating the original classes from the AI Flyables but the fix breaks even more the Z.1007 Early & Z.1007 Cargo... what should be done?

CANT Z.1007bis
SAS Modact 5.30 AI Flyables Pack

CANT Z.1007 Early / Z.1007 Cargo
http://forum.aviaskins.com/showthread.php?p=157276
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PBY Catalina
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,36461.0.html

Supermarine Walrus
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,17912.0.html

Supermarine Stranraer
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35318.0.html



Thanks in advance for your collaboration!!
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Re: B.A.T. BOMBSIGHTS - Let's fix'em all!
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2018, 11:34:45 AM »

appreciated!

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Re: B.A.T. BOMBSIGHTS - Let's fix'em all! (16 Fixed / 10 Broken)
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2018, 12:28:21 PM »

4 New fixes!

Lockheed P-38 DroopSnoot (by Stefan SG!) - Patch 27-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2558.msg418208.html#msg418208

Mitsubishi G3M2-11 & G3M2-22 (by Stefan SG!) - Patch 27-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47262.msg639909.html#msg639909

Mitsubishi G4M2A-24ko (by GUZKNIFE!) - Patch 27-Sep-2018
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,30389.msg391371.html#msg391371

And more broken bombsights identified :-X

Review the first post for the all-in-one patch download.

Regards,
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Re: B.A.T. BOMBSIGHTS - Let's fix'em all! (16 Fixed / 10 Broken)
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2018, 12:58:47 PM »

Good job Whistler!
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Re: B.A.T. BOMBSIGHTS - Let's fix'em all! (16 Fixed / 10 Broken)
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2018, 01:24:42 PM »

Cheers Henky, accepted as 'the researcher' ;D let's however thank the modders that took the time to re-code the bombsights for 4.12. I cannot fix broken sights myself, I tried and failed, but will keep trying.

Anyone can help and participate here
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Re: B.A.T. BOMBSIGHTS - Let's fix'em all! (16 Fixed / 12 Broken)
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2018, 05:46:16 AM »

Dear Whistler,
congratulations.
as we say in French a bomber without a bombsight is like " a beautiful girl with a missing tooth"" une jolie fille à qui il manque une dent"
Could you please explain how to introduce the mods in BAT WAW3:
the complete folder thru JSGME or
each plane thru JSGME
or?
Best regards.
Tart
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Re: B.A.T. BOMBSIGHTS - Let's fix'em all! (16 Fixed / 12 Broken)
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2018, 08:41:16 AM »

Many thanks whistler!!!
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Re: B.A.T. BOMBSIGHTS - Let's fix'em all! (16 Fixed / 12 Broken)
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2018, 10:37:46 AM »

[...] a bomber without a bombsight is like " a beautiful girl with a missing tooth" [...]

Precisely! :D

Dear Tart,

Unzip the download and move it to your BATMODS folder. You should have:

BATMODS > !#BAT_BOMBSIGHT_FIXES_27-Sep-2018 > #WAW3 ...

Activate !#BAT_BOMBSIGHT_FIXES_27-Sep-2018 with JSGME.
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Re: B.A.T. BOMBSIGHTS - Let's fix'em all! (16 Fixed / 20 Broken)
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2018, 07:14:33 PM »

In Ju 388K, Ju 88A-4 Late and Ju 88A-5 the position of the bomber can be used, but the bombsight does not appear with the corresponding key, at least in my B.A.T. V3.5 Musketeer.

The Ju 388K is easy to fix loading the original cockpit mod, but for the other two I have not found any solution.

Surely someone with more knowledge can fix it.
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Re: B.A.T. BOMBSIGHTS - Let's fix'em all! (21 Fixed / 18 Broken)
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2019, 06:28:18 AM »

Many thanks for the report sturmbock.

I confirm the Junkers 388K Bombsight gets fixed by applying western's update. Good catch! Thanks western!

Unfortunately the Ju 88A-4 Late and Ju 88A-5 remain unfixed.



4 New fixes by Stefan SG that will be part of the next B.A.T. Expansion!

Caproni Ca-133 (fix by Stefan SG!)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,39654.msg667818.html#msg667818

Caproni Ca-310 (fix by Stefan SG!)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,38086.msg667819.html#msg667819

Caproni Ca-311 & Ca-311M (fix by Stefan SG!)
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,47179.msg667820.html#msg667820

Thanks Stefan!!!

First post updated.
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Re: B.A.T. BOMBSIGHTS - Let's fix'em all!
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2019, 02:04:43 AM »

Project complete. First post updated. You can use this topic to report bombardier-related issues or create a new topic in the tech section.

Cheers!
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