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stiv_069

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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2018, 08:29:58 AM »

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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2018, 04:45:23 PM »

Hello guys, this I think will be the last weapon option. ;)

Coopers:



One of the images in the Windsock title I have describes the aircraft as having 'a row of small bombs on a
set of carriers', looks to me like side by side Cooper racks and their bombs so that is what I have done.

Downside to this option is that for DBW 1916 is is necessary to rename the bombs in the java because that
install does not recognize the way I entered it originally, if memory serves I had this issue with the RE8.

I might post a link tomorrow for you guys to test but it will only be the version you have seen, the 'G' I think,
as I think each of those types using my arming options can use this one slot, I have to still take a look at the
others and decide how best to do the remaining types.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2018, 04:54:21 PM »

Thanks Pete That is great news we all await for the D/L tomorrow ... ]wav[
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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2018, 07:24:37 AM »

Thanks Pete That is great news we all await for the D/L tomorrow ... ]wav[

Okay, here goes. ;)


Updated 8th December 2018.

Links have been removed as the finished pack is now released:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,60113.0.html

Notes:

The Mod uses Cooper bombs and they have always been problematic, for some reason they are named differently in some packs, please make sure you have these in your game:

0_WW1Bombs_British and Arms_British, found at these links:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,33456.0.html

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,26355.msg335779.html#msg335779


DBW 1916 uses a pack Istvan made for it please use the class file included inside the 4.10 version.



This is a test slot only, not intended for any specific aircraft type, they will follow later.

Using these will enable you to return the Avro folders to their original state.

Please only use the links for the game version specified and read the individual readme file for changes specific to game version.

No turret version, that will come later in development.


Please test and report back. ;)


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2018, 09:53:41 AM »

I have this plane installed in 4.12.2 and it flies very well. Hard to stall- good controls - lands on water and take off very smooth.
Bomb and torp racks look good.
I don't have any weapons. When it comes to over writing files I get lost.. That is me and not you..So I did not over write anything.
The weapons will come later..



The only draw back I have seen is that UGLY guy in the back seat. A sexy blonde in a yellow bikini would be much better.. :D ..

JOB WELL DONE Pete... Thank You





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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2018, 10:22:17 AM »

Hello <Gunnny>, you will have to find your own back seat driver, sorry, a sexy blonde in a bikini would get cold in there so I cannot imagine you will have many takers. :D

With the 4.12 version there is no need for you to do anything with the bombs, just go to the arming screen and all should be good to go providing you have the necessary Dreamk weapon packs. ;)


Take care.


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2018, 11:34:31 AM »

What I had when I wanted to load weapons was  I think this is right.  " Bombs Empty Racks"  Same for the torp..
This is what I had.
Every plane in my installs has bombs-rockets or what is needed. This and the Roland_CII lack weapons.

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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2018, 01:00:51 PM »

Looks like you are missing the Cooper bombs, they are next in the line and without them the other options will not show. ;)

You need a Dreamk weapon pack.

Find any British bomb pack by him, the Coopers are written in different ways in some that is why the 4.10 version has a altered class file but if you use that in your 4.12 then you will not be able to land on water using AI.

You did download the 4.12 version I hope and not the 4.10. :D

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2018, 06:36:07 PM »

I have those bombs and yes I did D/L the 4.12.2  ..
Here there are on the Be-2 .



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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2018, 04:03:24 AM »

I have those bombs and yes I did D/L the 4.12.2  ..



Hello <Gunny>, just pulling your leg. :D

The Coopers have always been problematic, for some reason they are named differently in some packs:

For the pack 'Arms_British' they use this for the java:

'new Aircraft._WeaponSlot(3, "BombGunCooper20lb", 1);'

In the pack ' 0_WW1Bombs_British' they use this:

'new Aircraft._WeaponSlot(3, "BombGunCooper20lbMkI", 1);'


Can you please check which bomb pack you have


If you have both of those packs in your 4.12.2 install then you should be able to see the bombs on the Short 184.


The second entry there is the one I have to use for DBW 1916 as the weapons pack Istvan put together for that uses that particular Cooper hence the class file change I included for the 4.10 download.


I think maybe you only have one of the packs, if you have both then I am screwed as far as a cure for you goes. :P


Take care.


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2018, 06:20:00 AM »

Hello guys, work continues. ;)

For those of you who might have downloaded from the links I provided you will notice in the weapon selection screen there is a option that includes two empty racks together, what is that for you might ask?

Well looking through the Windsock book I found a few images that show the aircraft configured in such a way, both applied but empty, so what is going on?

My thoughts are that the aircraft must have needed to be equipped with racks before leaving port and loading onto the catapult, however, I would not think it possible to use both simultaniously so they must have been bombed up only once the mission was decided and loaded with the most appropriate, bombs or torpedo.

Other images show the aircraft loaded with just two bombs, before a mission, after a mission?  It was not possible to determine whether the standard or torpedo mount was on these aircraft.

So, here are the two options that make some sense in the absence of any clarification:


Two 112lb bombs, this avoiding the torpedo frame at rear:



The single torpedo:



Before looking at the Windsock book I was under the impression that only four bombs or one torpedo could be carried due to weight considerations, however, the book describes the capability for nine 100lb bombs!

From looking at the photographs it does actually look like some aircraft actually use what appears to be a second main rack mounted side by side with another, does anyone have confirmation of this please?


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D


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Re: Short S184 seaplane
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2018, 08:54:04 AM »

Good Moring Sir:
 I went back downloaded DreamK weapons pack and reinstalled them.
0_WW1Bombs_British <--- This is it...

Good Luck and Thanks for all you do Pete.....
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