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Forgotten countries question
« on: June 23, 2010, 12:12:04 AM »

I was wondering if I could switch a country in this file (which I love by the way) from axis to allies.  Specifically I would like to move Lithuania to the allied side.  Just wondering if there is a quick way to do this, if not, no big deal.
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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 05:21:37 AM »

it is frought with danger lol, but I can copy for you here a simpel way Sanka sent me, for how to make a duplicate side for a country (like USA, and USA alternative blue, or in the example, moving Israel from the original mod red, and making an israel blue side also)

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In fact crating new countries without changing markings is quite simple and doesn't require to edit class files.

For instance, to create a blue-sided Israel (in the mod Israel is red sided!), chose a two-letter code for the country, eg. "ib".
Edit the file "regiments.ini" in the Forgotten_Countries\PaintSchemes folder and add these two lines:
under the [branch] section:
 Code:
 IB IS


under the section:
 Code:
 "ib01"


Then copy the 2 files "is01" and "is01.tga" from the PaintSchemes\Red folder to the PaintSchemes\Blue folder, and rename them respectively into "ib01" and "ib01.tga". Edit the file ib01 with notepad and change the line

 Code:
 country      = IS
id           = 01
gruppeNumber = 1
speech       = GB
short        = <none>
info         = Israel <none>


into:

 Code:
 country      = IB
id           = 01
gruppeNumber = 1
speech       = GB
short        = <none>
info         = Israel (Blue) <none>


Also, add the required lines in the i18n folder files to have the full name of the country displayed.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
sanka
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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 09:36:02 AM »

CirX, somebody asked similar question on UP forum:
http://ultrapack.tuttovola.org/index.php/topic,2545.msg25735.html#msg25735

Is there a method to do this in UP 2.01?
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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 02:33:58 PM »

CirX, somebody asked similar question on UP forum:
http://ultrapack.tuttovola.org/index.php/topic,2545.msg25735.html#msg25735

Is there a method to do this in UP 2.01?
Hey Bulau,

I think there probably is.  I have a smiliar job I need to do, tonite hopefully, where I want to swap out the .tga for some specific squadrons and edit their regInfos and regShorts.  I've had a bit of a look already: I'm not at home at the moment, but if I remember right there is an i18n folder at UP2.01/Files/i18n and a Regiments folder at UP2.01/Files/PaintSchemes/Regiments - something like that.  I'm planning to copy some files from Forgotten Countries in my SAS setup to make a template, then, transplant 'em over to UP2.01.  Don't see why it won't work?

I'll let you know how it goes...
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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 02:52:55 PM »

Yes, you can use SFS extractor to extract the "forgotten countries" part of SFS in UP, and then make a mod of it. I cant recal which SFS file it is in though.
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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 03:12:36 PM »

This all seems pretty daunting!! ???  Perhaps I'll hold off on this one, thanks for the replies though.  I guess I opened a can of worms on this one!
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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 03:16:31 PM »

I was also thinking on what could be done to swap out markings?

Sanka says 'creating new countries without changing markings is quite simple and doesn't require to edit class files' so it looks like swapping markings could be tricky, and does involve class files presumably, about which I know zip. 

But I've got in mind that there must be folders of 'decals' in Spooky's Markings and the like, and somewhere the code presumably points to whichever folder - so maybe by swapping the contents of folders in Spooky the code can be 'tricked' into putting up different markings?

The idea is to convert the Japanese Navy in DCG to North Korea - I've only ever been able to get Forgotten Countries to partially work in DCG (the way targets are assigned to 'blue' and 'red' gets a bit screwy) hence the need to 'convert' Japan.  It's a bit experimental at this stage!  :D

I don't have to have new markings for my project, simply selecting marked skins for the campaign is a pretty decent 'workaround', but it's an interesting idea to 'swap' markings nonetheless.

I wonder what can be achieved by messing about with 'id = XX' ?
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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 03:20:27 PM »

This all seems pretty daunting!! ???  Perhaps I'll hold off on this one, thanks for the replies though.  I guess I opened a can of worms on this one!

yes, I agree. I realy have to do an update of the SAS version of forgotten countries sometime, but as you say, it is daunting. I have so much respect for Sanka for the original mod. It is realy a big work.

But, my advice is, get stuck into it. It is the way we learn and discover things.


As for markings, Kiwi, you can always swop out the actual TGA files of the markings, like you would a default skin. It is when you want to build new marking methods on hooks from the meshes with new rules extressed in classes, that you start getting grey hairs. but opening up the markings folders and messing with them, that is cool. One of the first things I did when I originally got Sanka's mod, was to drop McWolfs decalshine mod's tga files right into it.
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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 02:23:39 AM »

...As for markings, Kiwi, you can always swop out the actual TGA files of the markings, ....
.... or make new:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,6483.0.html
This possibility exists only for the squadrons from the FC list.
How to add new squadron to the game?
For example we need RAF 307 Squadron "Lwowskich Puchaczy" (flying Defiants, Beaufighters, Mossie) and others.
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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 05:00:24 AM »

How 'bout this?  Custom historic North Korean squadrons for the blue IJN/INF army in DCG under UP2.01, with a .tga swap and custom regXXX edits etc.  To go back to stock, just rename the folder.





Spiffy huh?   8)

Copied and renamed CirX's old Forgotten Countries Lite from my SAS game into UP2.01 MODS folder, swapped some .tga's around and made a few file edit's to add a couple new squadrons - works great.  I'll give 'em a test run in DCG next, but there's no reason they won't work perfectly; if so, I'll add a whole orbat for the campaign I'm building.  Pretty chuffed I am.   ;D

Off to have a bourbon to celebrate!
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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 05:31:45 AM »

Passed with flying colors in FMB too.

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Re: Forgotten countries question
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2010, 06:20:06 AM »

.... or make new:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,6483.0.html
This possibility exists only for the squadrons from the FC list.
How to add new squadron to the game?
For example we need RAF 307 Squadron "Lwowskich Puchaczy" (flying Defiants, Beaufighters, Mossie) and others.

Hi Leszek

To add new squadrons to an existing 'XXXcountry' in FC:

In PaintSchemes/Blue or Red add:
 'XXXsquadron' file - copy an existing file as a template and edit and rename it following the existing format in notepad
 'XXXsquadron' .tga
 tip: ID = XX is the squadron letters/numbers

In PaintSchemes/decals/'XXXcountry' swap in new or different .tga's for the existing ones if you want.

Edit the description of 'XXXcountry' if you want in:
 i18n/country
 i18n/country_ru

Add 'XXXsquadron' under 'XXXcountry' by following the existing format in:
 i18n/regInfo
 i18n/regInfo_ru
 i18n/regShort
 i18n/regShort_ru

Go to PaintSchemes/regiments.ini and add the code for 'XXXsquadron' under 'XXXcountry' following the existing format.

Copy your custom FC into the MODS folder to get it working in UP2.01.  Re-name it if you want to swap versions or go back to stock UP2.01.

That's everything I think. Hope it helps!

Cheers
Kiwi
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