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Vampire_pilot

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P-40L 79FG 99FS?
« on: March 20, 2021, 05:32:22 AM »

I am playing a campaign that calls for skins for P-40M, all named "SL-P-40L-79FG99FS .... Italy-1943.bmp"

It appears the skins were never delivered with the missions (old stuff, no idea about the exact source). But it looks like it's part of  larger back because they are all so neatly named.

Does anyone have these skins or knows the package? I looked around here and there but could not find any P-40 skins at all for that unit.

PS: google gives me hints this could be from old now defunct asisbiz.com... sad.
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Re: P-40L 79FG 99FS?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2021, 06:14:29 AM »

Vampire,

I have just over 100 gigs worth of skins so there is a very good chance that I have them. I’ll give my skin folder a thorough search when I get home from work this afternoon. Hope it’s fine if it takes a few hours to get home. Work is work.


Sincerely,

James
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Re: P-40L 79FG 99FS?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2021, 06:54:03 AM »

... unless you get better ones, these should fit ...  ;)

https://www.mediafire.com/file/of29nea0kc762jf/P40.7z/file
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Re: P-40L 79FG 99FS?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2021, 09:32:48 AM »

Inside Micks Skinpack are the 4 mentioned SL/P-40L/79th-99th 1A coded Kites.

I have the same skins sans Blanks from old Assisbiz

IL2-SL-Curtiss-P-40L-Warhawk-79FG99FS-A10-42-10499-Italy-1943.bmp

He made 4 marked and 4 Blanks for the 99th. Prior to my 2009 HD crash I know
I had more P-40s from the 79th 99th, a collection I started in 2007, but the HD was unrecoverable and the sources
of these Skins vanished, at 2010 the demise of Skin websites was at 70% lost.
Though intended part of a Series of Skinpacks, who knows?

Author:
MustangSlater67 or _51st_Slater or Alex Charbonneau

Read Me: Tuskegee P40s 99FS.zip
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Welcome to the 99th Fighter Squadron, "Tuskegee Airmen Part 1: First Blood" skin pack by _51st_Slater!
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First off, this template was created by me for my personal use, but if and when I upload it, it's
your's to do with as you please. The skins took a lot of hard work, and I'm very pleased with the
way they turned out. If you enjoy them, and wish to modifiy them in some way, I ask that you leave
my sig on them(the tires). However, if you don't like where I put my sig and want to remove it, do
so only if you give me some credit somewhere, please. It's not that it makes me mad if you don't,
but there are other skinners who care a great deal, and I wouldn't want to get them upset.

There are four historically accurate(or as close as I can get)skins from the very first stage in
the life of the 99th Fighter Squadron, 33rd and later 79th Fighter Groups. This squadron was the
first group of the so-called Tuskegee Airmen to see service in World War II. After nearly a year
in the P-40 in the Mediterranean, the 99th was finally upgraded to more modern combat aircraft,
however that is another story for another skin pack. Carrying on....
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Something I'd Like to Say Before We Get Into it:
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Hey everyone, I'm going to keep this short, but it's something I really want to say. When I was
a kid(well, alot younger), one of my teachers told me about the struggle the Tuskegee Airmen went
through to get their chance to defend their country. Doing the little bit of research I did for
this project reminded me of that(my teacher had even mentioned the report sent in by the 33rd FG).
There is a huge amount of material on the 332nd FG and the 99th's work later in the war, but there
really seems to be a lack of material(pictures are a big one I'm missing)about their early months
in combat with the P-40. I included the skins that I didn't have much info on for that purpose,
to remind us how much we owe these men, and let us know, we can't forget. Hell, these pilots got
crapped on til the end, but, for God and Country, they fought on, receiving only worn out, beat-up
fighters until they got the P-51s.

So, don't let's forget, keep it alive! I hope these skins help to that end!

Now, I'll stop and let you keep reading and learn a bit(I hope ;))

S! Slater

Alex Charbonneau
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A Brief History:
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If you ask almost anyone about the Tuskegee Airmen, they'll shoot back real quick about red-tailed
P-51s and the like. Indeed, the exploits and combat record of the 332nd Fighter Group was impecable,
and unmatched in WWII. But, don't forget, before they were the 332nd FG, they were just the 99th FS,
flying the "obsolete" P-40F and P-40L Warhawk and hopping from FG to FG in the Med. Flying their
first mission on 2 June 1943, the 99th consisted entirely of black personel and was commanded by
Maj Benjamin O'Davis Jr. Their first aerial combat came on 9 June 1943, but provided no victories.
However, on 2 July 1943, 1Lt Charles B. Hall scorred the first "Tuskegee" victory by downing an
Fw-190 over Sicily.

Unfortunately, opposition to the 99th didn't just come from the Germans. In late 1943, the original
host unit of the 99th, the 33rd FG, sent an unflattering report on the combat effectivness of its
black pilots(this report was signed by Col. William Moymer, CO of the 33rd FG). Command of the
99th was given to Maj George S. Roberts while Maj O'Davis was in Washington fighting to keep the
squadron alive.

On 27 Jan 1944, however, the pilots of the 99th did the talking. While patroling over the allied
invasion at Anzio, a group of 15 99th P-40s attacked 16 Fw-190s. Five 190s were downed by the
black pilots with no losses. Later in the day, three more German fighters were shot down, but with
the loss of two 99th P-40s. By the time the aerial threat to Anzio had subsided at the end of
February 1944, the 99th had worked its way to becoming to top scoring allied unit over the beachhead,
with 16 victories. Throughout their tenure in P-40s, the 99th scored 17 victories before their
transition to the P-47, and later the P-51 with the 332nd FG. I was flying their Red Tail P-51s
that the 99th truly came to fame, but their early beginnings often seemed pased over.
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The Skins:
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The first P-40 depicted here is P-40L-15, 42-10855 coded A33 and was flown by 1Lt Robert W. Deiz
on the 27 Jan mission. On that mission, while flying this aircraft, Deiz knocked down a 190. While
flying a different P-40, Deiz shot down another enemy the next day. After returning to the U.S. Deiz
volunteered to return to combat with the 477th BG, but the war ended before the unit was put in combat.

The second aircraft is P-40L-1, 42-10499, coded A10 and named "Africa Special" originally of the
58th FS/33rd FG. Some of this units orignal markings can be seen, including the American flag, as
well as the wing and tail stripes. This aircraft suffered some form of accident at Capodichino, Italy
while the 99th FS was attached to the 79th FG in late 1943, pilot unkown, nose art may not be 100%
historically accurate.

The third aircraft is P-40L-15, 42-1088 coded A17 and was flown by 1Lt Herman "Ace" Lawson. Lawson
scored one probable durring the 27 Jan mission. This aircraft is depicted as it was in 1943, while
attached to the 79 FG in Madna, Italy. Lawson later led missions over Germany when the 99th was
attached to the all-black 332nd Fighter Group.

Finally, the fourth aircraft is P-40L-?? 42-1481(??) coded A19 and was flown by Lt Charles P. Bailey
sometime after the 27 Jan mission. Bailey also scored a 190 over Anzio on the 27 Jan mission. The
aircraft is named "Josephine" after Bailey's mother. The code and serial number may be innaccurate
for this aircraft. Bailey flew 133 missions, was awarded the Air Medal with four Oak Leaf Clusters
and was also awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross in May of 1945. He finished with two aerial
victories, one in the P-40 and one in the P-51.
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References:
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I would REALLY like to thank these websites and books, from whom I've gleaned much information:

P-40 Warhawk Aces of the MTO, Osprey Aircraft of the Aces-43, Carl Molesworth
2002, Osprey Publishing

http://www.amtechmodels.com/tgr_view.cfm?Item=TGR48017

http://www.nutleysons.com/bel_w2_willette.html

http://www.starduststudios.com/shep.htm

http://www.ebonywings.com

http://tuskegeeairmen.org/history_Missions.htm



Find his work at Mission 4 Today in the P-40 FlightSimPack reupload

https://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads2&file=details&id=7310

If you don't have it, here is mixed Collection of very old P-40/47/51 Skins:
https://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads2&file=details&id=8191

I answered in an old Request Thread at M4T, Darkfall45 has supplied the Community with long forgotten gems,
let's wait what he can supply on the Topic...

Best wishes
Tobias
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Re: P-40L 79FG 99FS?
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2021, 09:10:22 AM »

huh. I thought i replied here already.

Thanks for all the links!
There were indeed useful skins to be found. No exactly the ones with those names but definitely the right category.
Editing the missions is easy.
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Re: P-40L 79FG 99FS?
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2021, 12:09:28 PM »

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Re: P-40L 79FG 99FS?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2021, 02:16:52 AM »

nice, thanks!
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