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[Alin_Alexandru]

What problems are you having with the Rumanian campaign?

Well I'm on mission 13 and as of now on mission 7 (the one where you have to defend some F.40s from Fokker E.IIIs), neither the Fokkers nor the Farmans spawn. The rest of the missions up until now have been fine, except for that mission.

I checked Wikipedia. It only mentioned Hungary having a few captured Antaras from Odessa. The French destroyed their other planes according to the article.

Wikipedia isn't the greatest source, especially since I see a lack of sources in the article. But I have to ask, where were the did you find that info on Hungarian captured Antaras from Odessa? I didn't see it on wikipedia.

I guess my Rumanian pilot will be commanding a squadron of Breguet bomber/recce machines

Sure it would work, though the squadron should have other aircraft as well (like Sopwiths and captured planes like the Brandenburg C.I). But all in low numbers.

I finished a recconnisance mission last night. Thanks for the info on Hungarian planes.

Nice, and you're welcome!

[Dreamk]

Great pack. Thanks a lot!

[David Prosser]

Here is the reference to the Hugarians having 8 Antaras. Again from the Wiki stable. So not 100% reliable. I'll d/l the Romanian campaign later, and see if I can fis the faulty sortie. Thanks for the heads up. I've done two more missions. One bombing mission, and another airfield relocation mission. Net will be a ground attack mission.

cheers

David

[Alin_Alexandru]

Here is the reference to the Hugarians having 8 Antaras. Again from the Wiki stable.

Think you forgot to post the link ; ) . Anyway I did find the wiki article about it. Anatra DS Anasal: "In March 1918 Odessa was occupied by Austro-Hungarian forces, in accordance with the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk and in May the Austrian government ordered 200 Anasals, as the Anatra C.I, for training and observation. 114 were received by the Austrians by September 1918, some half being given to training units before the end of World War I. ... The major postwar user of the Anasal was Czechoslovakia, with 23 former Austrian aircraft, used by the military, and later in civilian aviation. ... Eight Anasals were used by revolutionary forces in Hungary. ..." . So it seems that Austria-Hungary did indeed use Anasals and Hungary did get 8 of them, but I really can't be certain these were used against Romania though. It mentioned that Czechoslovakia used a large number of them as well, so the Hungarian ones were probably used on that front, and not the Romanian one. I base my explanation on the fact that no Anatras were captured by Romanian forces, and Romanian forces captured pretty much all the Hungarian aircraft used against them. But then again I can't be 100% certain.

One bombing mission, and another airfield relocation mission. Net will be a ground attack mission.

Nice

[Alin_Alexandru]

As I said in a previous comment I'm gonna make another skin pack and it's finished now. So here is pack number 2 (and probably last one, because I ran out of sources : ))), I'll put the link in the first page. Was thinking on making another topic but it seemed better to keep it in the same topic.

Here's what's included:
-Blériot XI belonging to the Military Flight School of Cotroceni, Bucharest, 1912. These aircraft flew reconnaissance missions in the Second Balkan War


-Nieuport 11 number 1143 "La Chat noire", flown by James Texier of Nieuport 3 (N.3) squadron. He died on 16 August 1917 from wounds suffered in combat the previous day.


-Nieuport 11, flown by Captain Haralambie Giossanu, commander of Farman 4 (F.4) squadron, summer 1917. Though commanding a reconnaissance squadron, he requested a Nieuport and learned to fly it by himself so he could escort his squadron members in missions.


-Nieuport 17, flown by Sergent Nicolae Mănescu of Nieuport 1 (N.1) squadron (another Romanian ace with 5 air victories, though with 3 of them shared). Also it's rather unclear whether he flew a Nieuport 17 or 11, the source I used for it refers to a N17 but it was contradicted on some other occasions on the exact type of aircraft, problem being that in the original texts the planes were only referred to as Nieuports without their model type, so I chose to go with it and made the skin for the N17.


-Nieuport 17, unknown squadron.


-Nieuport 24bis, unknown squadron.


-Farman 40, flown by Captain Radu Irimescu, commander of Farman 5 (F.5) squadron.


-Caudron G.4, part of Caudron 12 (C.12) squadron.


-Breguet 14B2, unknown squadron.


-Breguet 14B2, unknown squadron, post 1919.


-Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter number 5076, used in the war of 1919.


-Hansa-Brandenburg C.I, captured during the war of 1919. For both regular and late versions.


And that's all

[David Prosser]

Thanks, these just flew into my Skins folder. I'll use the Strutter, and the Hansa in the campaign.

cheers

David

[Alin_Alexandru]

Thank you. Also I saw your messages and just wanted to ask for the Hungarian Air Force, what planes did you give them? Just the ones mentioned before in my other comment, Fokker, Berg and H-B C.I? Or did you give them Anatras or something else to replace the Phonix/UFAGs as well?

[David Prosser]

As far as I know, they only had the Antaras by then. They are un armed, except for bombs. All their other planes had been confiscated, or destroyed by the allies. I just finished a mission where the player strafes road traffic in an HB with four downward firing MGs. It's the one you made the markings for.
    Sorry I forgot to put the link about the Antaras. The one you quoted is the same one I saw. I think an Antara, or two wil be bombed on an airfield.

I looked at the faulty mission you mentioned earlier. The Farman 20/40 was the culprit. So, it's now a Farman 40, and a Farman 11. The player has a Nieuport ii, with one of your skins. I'll re-release the campaign with your skins on the Rumanian planes.

cheers

David

[Alin_Alexandru]

Actually no, this was in 1919 and by then there was no actual way to confiscate any planes (except by capturing during the war) since a treaty wasn't signed (that would be Trianon in 1920). The planes listed in that comment is what they used and with those even air combat happened though it was rare, let me give some examples (sources: "Aeronautica română în Războiul de Întregire naţională 1916-1919" ; "Broken Wings: The Hungarian Air Force, 1918–45"):

- After a dogfight over the town of Miskolc a Hungarian Hansa-Brandenburg C.I landed behind Romanian lines, the crew being taken prisoner;
- On 12th June 1919 an UFAG CI flown by Bucur Stan and Mihail Hurmuzescu was attacked by 2 Fokker D.VII flown by Géza Keisz and László Újváry and was shot down, both Romanian airmen loosing their lives (the first source I listed mentions that Hurmuzescu, who was the observer, shot down one of the Fokkers but the other source doesn't mention it so it could be that one of the Fokkers was damaged but managed to get back to base);
- 3 days later another pilot, József Kretz, shot down a Breguet 14 (on the Czechoslovakian front) that was attempting to bomb Győr;
- On 19th June 1919 a Hungarian plane was damaged in air combat with Romanian planes and landed behind Romanian lines;
- On 21st July a Hungarian plane was hit and shot down by Romanian AA fire in the Szentes-Csongrád sector;
- In the morning of the 31st July, Iosif Răcășanu, commander of N.7 squadron shot down a Hansa-Brandenburg near Tiszalök, the aircraft landing behind Hungarian lines;
- It's also mentioned on a site that sublocotenent Nicolae Cicei of N7 squadron managed to shoot down a Hungarian Fokker, though I couldn't verify this info and it's also unclear whether he was flying a Fokker himself or if he was still on a Nieuport when this happened.
During the war the Romanians captured some 150 aircraft, 107 being complete (rest being captured from factories I presume), of which 48 were airworthy, together with these planes some 260 engines were also captured (take these numbers with a grain of salt since this is the only source I have giving them and I don't have a different source to confirm).

And I ended up giving info on all aircraft shot down during this conflict (at least that I know of), oops xD
I also found info on the Anatras and those do seem to have been used on the Romanian front as well, and managed to escape to Western Hungary.

I looked at the faulty mission you mentioned earlier. The Farman 20/40 was the culprit. So, it's now a Farman 40, and a Farman 11. The player has a Nieuport ii, with one of your skins. I'll re-release the campaign with your skins on the Rumanian planes.

Thank you, I look forward to it!

[Dreamk]

Deep thanks for that. This fills quite a gap.
It is so difficult to find graphic documentation on details of Romanian air force and equipment. And what is available is often mistakenly identified.
 This is not only true for ww1 and the 1919 conflict but also for ww2 - we had a recent thread on BOCN forum with new findings throwing quite a new light on bombs and bomb racks used by Romania in the 1936-43 period.
It is a great thing to have at last knowledgeable Romanian members being active on these forums.

[Alin_Alexandru]

Yea, I know. Main problem is the sources that there are out there are in Romanian. Like the sources that I used to make these skins (mind you many of the skins are made from descriptions and a representation of the decals from some old modelling magazines, though I did manage to find photos confirming some of them so the decal descriptions from the magazines seem to be pretty accurate).

And it still wasn't easy, you need to have more than a single source to double check the info because some sources are outdated and newer ones contradict them and even these newer sources can get contradicted, this was true especially when looking for the air victory count for Romanian pilots until I found a publication from the Military Archives from 2017 that lists all the air victories the pilots and observers got and detailing the ones of the top 3 pilots (with dates, locations, aircraft types in some cases) and I say that is the most accurate info there is to date (even if has some mistakes here and there as well).

[David Prosser]

Ah, good. I'll add in a couple of those instances, or something like them. The campaign needed some spice. I'll also re-issue the original campaign with random weather, and random planes.

cheers

David