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[NobleNerd]

Another quality of life improvement that I've been thinking about.

Technically, the "cutoff" year for WAW is 1946, although there are still a few aircraft and variants from beyond that. It would be nice if the rest of the aircraft in JTW from 1947 and 1948 were ported over to WAW as well, just to expand our timeline for alternate histories. 1948 seems like the ideal cutoff year for having early jets and other higher-tech aircraft and ground vehicles mixed with older aircraft and ground vehicles in a continuous war scenario; anything beyond that, and it seems more practical to go ahead and use JTW.

[bomberkiller]

It would be nice if the rest of the aircraft in JTW from 1947 and 1948 were ported over to WAW...

PLEASE NOT! We don't need that!

With best regards, Gerhard 

[Epervier]

Do you want to change the History of WWII?
In 1948 there is no longer a World at War!
No way!

[SAS~Storebror]

Relax guys.
NobleNerd isn't all that wrong.
We have extended WAW into 1946 ("what if") already.
The 1946 cutoff sometimes just doesn't seem right.
Especially in case of early jets (Meteor, Vampire) we artificially "hide" slightly advanced versions into JTW, whereas others (early/first versions) are in WAW.
The B-36 family is torn apart.
It really makes sense to leave a slightly larger overlap.
However the issue is that WAW is already cramped with planes, it's already about to hit the Java wall for some of us, so from a feasibility point of view we should rather discuss cutting WAW into two parts (early+mid WW2 / mid+late WW2 plus what-if) than adding further planes and thereby further trouble to the existing pack.


Mike

[Griffon_301]

IMHO it would make more sense to split WAW into a Pacific War part and a European War part;
I have two seperate modules running for each theatre created out of stock WAW for quite some time now; its rather easy (if time consuming) to do and you can easily create custom ini sets for ships, aircraft, maps etc...

[Mission_bug]

A difficult task here whatever is done because each module in some way suffers from not having a complete set so to speak.

Many WWI types were still at war into the late twenties with those who were unable to upgrade to the latest types and some from the thirties have the same issue in that many soldiered on through WWII in many of the far flung nations, Finland and Thailand come to mind in that for campaign builders it is difficult to add enough types to the line up in some because they are separated by module.  Not game breaking I know as many do fit where they are, however, it can make mission/campaign building a bit of a head-scratcher trying to figure what is where and for the player can mean adding various things to B.A.T. when really they would rather just have the team do any new additions.

Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[cbradbury]

Or to migrate in the opposite direction - add older aircraft to JTW rather than over bloat WAW. For example, we have Tobias's post-war Fireflys with radar, but I can't get them to run in JTW. Radar Avengers, too.

[baggo]

I think griffons idea is pretty good Pacific and Europe makes a lot of sense over just time slots, just my two cents on it. Kev.

[Griffon_301]

actually splitting up into theatre modules does not make mission building that much harder IMHO;
there simply were no German/Italian types in the PTO (with the exception of some very very early Italian stuff like the BR-20 bomber or some fighters) and equally, no IJA/IJN aircraft in the ETO;
you also do not need many USN aircraft, in fact all you need is the F4F/FM-2 series, the Avengers and some Hellcats to cover pretty much every combat mission, the USN undertook in the ETO;
for the British, we have the Corsairs, Martlets and Hellcats in their own slots of course;
also, the Russian aircraft types can be thinned out for a PTO module, as there is only a need for the early types (Nomonhan) and the late types (Manchuria); all the in between birds are not really needed;

the minor nations can be split up just like that - no Polish birds in the PTO for example while the Dutch did use different types in the defense of their homeland and in the colonial wars in the NEI...

and the best part of it - in its current state you can add and remove aircraft from BAT by simply adding their respective line in the air.ini or deleting it or remming it out...
this is valid for the stock plane set of WAW - manual additions still would need to be added or removed via the accustomed way....

same holds true for ships and maps...

[Shakaali]

I agree that splitting WAW by theatres makes more sense than splitting it by time periods.

First, there are campaigns that span from the beginning of the war to the end of the war. Playing and creating such campaigns would be very hard if you would have to swap module in the middle of the campaign.

Second, late war module would get filled (or incomplete) very soon, as most early war aircraft were still in use in the late stages of the war, especially by smaller nations who had to use what they had (eg. Finland used Fokker CX's and Brewster Buffalos in Lapland War 1945 and Iraq used Gloster Gladiators until 1949).

[Epervier]

My 409/UP2.01 is divided into several modules (SFS packages) for the following aircraft:
- ETO West (UK/France/Germany)
- ETO East (Poland/Russia/Germany/Finland)
- PTO pre-WWII (Russia/Japan)
- PTO WWII (USA/Japan)
- MTO (France/GB/Germany/Italy/USA specific)
- Jets (WWII and post-war which I never use)

And for vehicles/vessels in two SFS packages:
- ETO-MTO ships/vehicles
- PTO ships/vehicles

It took me 6 months to do these splits but now I have a game that loads faster and frees me from a lot of stuff I never used.
The main pack for me being the MTO.

We really do have very different ways of running our good old game!!!      

[genXgamer]

Totally agree with Griffon_301

Split the WAW module into European and Pacific, but sounds like a lot of work for someone.