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Hello again guys, I have decided to split this build from the Thorneycroft and Coles thread and give
these vehicles a separate one of thier own, while part of the recovery set they are a different vehicles. ;)




Even though I have basic drawings so can at least make a start on the overall shapes I still needed to find
some thing like the Belfast restoration on the Thorneycroft to provide some close up detail and have found
some restoration projects to take a look at:

U.K:

https://hmvf.co.uk/topic/3403-bedford-oxc/

New Zealand:

https://www.airforcemuseum.co.nz/collections-research/conserve/current-projects/queen-mary-trailer/

East Midlands:

http://www.eastmidsmodelclub.co.uk/queen-mary.html

Hanger 42 at Blackpool Squires Gate airfield on Facebook:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.facebook.com/lytham.spitfire/videos/the-bedford-oxc-and-queen-mary-trailer-of-hangar-42-blackpool-airport/574414146525302/&ved=2ahUKEwjD8eqv2L-FAxWbV0EAHUzPCNwQwqsBegQIFBAF&usg=AOvVaw3crc1ZKqM6RQeEw4I1GM5t

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.facebook.com/lytham.spitfire/videos/for-sale-swap-or-part-exbedford-oxc-and-post-war-taskers-aircraft-recovery-trail/640312943848257/&ved=2ahUKEwjD8eqv2L-FAxWbV0EAHUzPCNwQwqsBegQIFhAF&usg=AOvVaw3_-Tun8TJX4EydG9n-6DaJ



Good to know that dedicated enthusiasts are bringing these vehicles back to their former glory and keeping
them available for future generations. 8)

Hopefully these will aid me in construction as well as various photographs on the internet and various scale modelling sites. ;)


Link updated 5th May 2024 for the WIP model so far of the Bedford OXC tractor unit:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/va9vw0vmy9ism0v/WIP+Bedford+OXC+test+model+5th+May+2024.7z/file

The WIP template for the vehicle if you want to tinker, added 5th May 2024:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/u6vk8vb4uw3u0mj/WIP+Template++for+Bedford+OXC+test+model+5th+May+2024.7z/file

Here is the link to a page in the Junks thread by Greif11 to some classfiles needed if you want to use the objects
for this in the buildings folder, they are needed to allow your game to see objects assembled by a hier.him, you should not
need them to just add the Bedford as a moving vehicle in the cars folder:


https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,57217.msg634919.html#msg634919


I have not done any building yet but have put together some drawings and made the bounding box for the
Bedford tractor unit and Queen Mary trailer:








Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Bedford OXC and Queen Mary trailer.
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2021, 12:27:41 PM »

Hello again guys, hope my moving the second part of the build has not confused, I thought the other thread was long
enough so have cut this away to start all the mischief and mayhem again.  :D


Well, with the link from the Bedford restoration to look at I began to build, I have used some of the
photographs from there to make it easier to follow rather than keep going back and forward, hopefully
the author will not object. ;)


Initially I cut the springs from the Thorneycroft just to get some sense of where things will go and from
there started construction of the main spars:





Using my usual tried and trusted methods I used the line tool and with the addition of a few modifiers the
main spar is put together following the photographs above for shape:





This piece was quite complex but worth the effort as it joins the two sides of what will be the chassis together:





Not sure just how involved this will get but at least the construction is now underway. 8)


Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Hi Pete,
Nice to see the old Airfix set again, good choice.

Pahh, easy for you now, be done in a few weeks...ha ha ;)

Good luck!

Cheers

Shessi
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Hello Shessi, with the Thorneycroft now done with all the lods added and put in a release thread of its own it was time to make a start on
the remaining vehicles. ;)

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,67604.0.html


I have started a new thread for the Bedford and Queen Mary so that I can return to the previous thread to finish up the articulated version
of the Thorneycroft at a later date, who knows I might flit between the threads doing a bit from each, we will have to see but it made sense
to me at least to to build the recovery set as separate vehicle combinations which is what they are Thorneycroft and Coles with Bedford and
Queen Mary.

Did a little bit more this morning making various assemblies for the rear spring:




Two weeks for sure. :D 

Maybe more like two years. :o

Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D

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Hello again guys, just a brief update on the new vehicle. ;)

To try and get everything organized I painted three of the chassis parts to enable the template to be
started and give me the first texture:



These parts were then extracted and would form the base for the new model and allow me to set up the
various folders that allow them to function in game as well as the java to make things work where necessary,
here we see those actually in game, this is the stationary for the moving vehicle:




Then a check to test the entries for the static objects, here along with the previous stationary:




And a final test, moving, moving, moving, yes I know how sad I am. :D




So the folder structure and java are all okay and I now have a working folder to continue the add in and testing
as I continue on with the build. 8)


Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Bedford OXC and Queen Mary trailer. Second part of the recovery set build.
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2021, 01:15:15 PM »

So on we go fleshing out that rather bare chassis. :D

The rear spring is three parts, the end pieces were made separate then attached and welded, you will
have seen those parts earlier.  The brackets consist of a side and base with the opposite made after
mapping by cloning, the sides are two sizes:

 



Here all the previous parts have been assembled and mapped and their colour added on the template:





The front spring is a different shape to the rear so a new one was made as well as a template to try and
replicate the front cross piece, new shapes were made using the line tool and the template used to try
and form the shape I wanted by combining those new shapes, they are the pink coloured parts placed along
the template:




This is the result of attaching those parts and using various modifiers to create the shape, you have seen
this many times during construction of the Thorneycroft:





Once complete it looks good enough for me, the purists will have to excuse my rough and ready 3D:





A quick test with other parts just to see if all looks well, you can judge, near enough for me though:






I borrowed some parts from the rear, some re-orientated as indicated looking at the photographs from the
restoration:





Trying to figure out just where everything goes and what to make next, these images really are a great help:





Usually I build a bit and then map it and colour things, here is the completed work so far, there are still
quite a few assemblies before it is complete but it seems to be coming along nicely so far:





Moving on there is what appears to be a rubber stop, most likely helps prevent damage as the spring moves
up and down, next up is the bracket you can see in the photograph and anything connected to it:





Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Bedford OXC and Queen Mary trailer. Second part of the recovery set build.
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2021, 05:52:07 AM »

You're off to a good start there mate, you share my love for detail. Are you creating another detailed engine model? :)
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Re: Bedford OXC and Queen Mary trailer. Second part of the recovery set build.
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2021, 06:45:59 AM »

Hello Glen, I do like to detail, it was the same when I did scale models but I need to learn when enough is enough and when to stop. ;)

Thankfully this vehicle on its own is not as complex as the Thorneycroft but I will try and get the most important bits in there, as usual,
while there are some excellent shots in the link I have been using I cannot quite fathom everything so as always a little artistic licence
will be the order of the day. :D

I will try and give the engine a go, you can see in one of the previous photographs that it is nowhere near the complexity of the last
one I tackled, this gives you a look at the engine and bay so it will provide its own headaches I am sure:





Not much to see of the gearbox from this cab interior shot:





This morning I have been trying to replicate the bracket that the 'U' bolts thread through, a castle nut seems to hold a rod of some,
kind, I have not the patience today, the pain holds up progress as usual.




Take care and be safe.


Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D



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Re: Bedford OXC and Queen Mary trailer. Second part of the recovery set build.
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2021, 06:57:11 AM »

You'd better get Tigger right!  ;)

As ever, following with great interest.  :)
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Re: Bedford OXC and Queen Mary trailer. Second part of the recovery set build.
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2021, 10:54:45 AM »

You'd better get Tigger right!  ;)

I can't do them there furry things Andy, sorry. ::(

Glad you are still following developments. 8)

This tractor unit lends itself to quite a few trailer combinations used by British forces besides the Queen Mary so it should
prove to be a versatile unit, maybe someone will step up and add those while I add this particular combination, if not then
I might have my work cut out for some time to come. :D

Besides trailers the cab itself can be used with a extended chassis to create all types of Bedfords from flat bed to radio
vehicles and soft top troop transports. :o

Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Bedford OXC and Queen Mary trailer. Second part of the recovery set build.
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2021, 08:57:45 AM »

Hello again guys, yes still here but as always I keep getting waylaid so I thought it time to get back to this.  ;)


I opted to extract the spring detail so far and see if it looked okay, I'm happy enough with it so far:





Back to the smaller detailing, here the mapping of the brackets has begun:





From the images I have it is difficult to see just how these are shaped but it looks close enough I think:






The arm that connects the chassis to the spring is under construction:







With mapping done to that part I decided to clone the work so far and get things in position on the opposite side:







Painted up and making sure the mapping is aligned correctly:






Enough for now. :D


Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Bedford OXC and Queen Mary trailer. Second part of the recovery set build.
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2021, 12:22:39 AM »

Nice to see you back with your lovely detailed work. :)

Compliments of the season to you and your family Pete.
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