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wolf44

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JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« on: December 13, 2021, 03:39:21 AM »

Greetings to all! I searched the SAS and M4T sites after static campaign  for JG 26 from 1940-1945. I have not found, exception with "Abbeville boys" by SAS ~ Poltava, which includes only 1943.I intend to build a static campaign based on Donald Caldwell's book - "The JG26 War Diary".On vp modpack 4.12.2 and I think  compatible with BAT, I intend to build for  130-140 missions in the same campaign, not in volumes.If you have any advice or want to tell me your opinion, I hope you do not hesitate. Anyway, the campaign is still being documented.I'm still waiting for opinions on the first two campaigns, Eagle Squadron and Pumak. It would help to know the opinion of those who "flew" in one of the campaigns.

Whish all the best!

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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2021, 05:24:27 AM »

... I just took a look at the first .mis of you Eagle Squadron campaign, and since you asked for a piece of advice ...  ;)

You just can't have:

 Fuel 100, for an airplane that is already flying (NORMFLY), especially an heavily loaded bomber, since take off is what costs the more, fuel wise ...  ;)

[g0100]
  Planes 4
  Skill 1
  Class air.JU_87B2
  Fuel 100
  weapons 1xSC250_4xSC50
[g0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 235355.13 203617.04 4000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 196944.04 224074.78 4000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 181608.94 225376.33 4000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 168969.38 222107.25 4000.00 300.00 &0
  GATTACK 162270.40 218659.63 4000.00 300.00 4_Chief 0 &0
  NORMFLY 144943.71 209486.67 4000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 142032.92 194896.01 4000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 194885.35 180220.58 4000.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 259958.95 215802.86 0 0 &0

... you can only have Fuel 100 if the first waypoint of a plane is : TAKEOFF  ...  ;)
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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2021, 06:37:48 AM »

Hi Wolf

Good  ( and vast ) subject.
I have the JG 26 War Diaries - excellent books. They will make a monumental campaign.

My advice is very simple - listen to anyone who provides advice , think about it , and make the campaign
you desire to suit what you feel best represents your subject matter.

Manipulate the game any way you see fit to fulfill YOUR campaign ideals.

This is a game , and if it is not engaging people will not fly it.
If it does not engage you then it won't engage anyone else.
Historical accuracy is difficult ( not impossible ) to achieve , but always ask yourself whether it suits your purpose
for your campaign.

You are not likely to get a lot of feedback whether your campaign is poor or excellent , so stick to your guns.
If you do get feedback ( hopefully from private testers BEFORE public release) , listen to it carefully and
if you can implement their thoughts without sacrificing your intent make some changes.

Enjoy your process.

Best of luck.

Kopfdorfer
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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2021, 06:48:32 AM »

... I just took a look at the first .mis of you Eagle Squadron campaign, and since you asked for a piece of advice ...  ;)

You just can't have:

 Fuel 100, for an airplane that is already flying (NORMFLY), especially an heavily loaded bomber, since take off is what costs the more, fuel wise ...  ;)

[g0100]
  Planes 4
  Skill 1
  Class air.JU_87B2
  Fuel 100
  weapons 1xSC250_4xSC50
[g0100_Way]
  NORMFLY 235355.13 203617.04 4000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 196944.04 224074.78 4000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 181608.94 225376.33 4000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 168969.38 222107.25 4000.00 300.00 &0
  GATTACK 162270.40 218659.63 4000.00 300.00 4_Chief 0 &0
  NORMFLY 144943.71 209486.67 4000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 142032.92 194896.01 4000.00 300.00 &0
  NORMFLY 194885.35 180220.58 4000.00 300.00 &0
  LANDING 259958.95 215802.86 0 0 &0

... you can only have Fuel 100 if the first waypoint of a plane is : TAKEOFF  ...  ;)

Yes, I understood! I intended something like this, but when I started building ... I forgot! But thank you, I'll take that into account!
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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2021, 06:52:37 AM »

Hi Wolf

Good  ( and vast ) subject.
I have the JG 26 War Diaries - excellent books. They will make a monumental campaign.

My advice is very simple - listen to anyone who provides advice , think about it , and make the campaign
you desire to suit what you feel best represents your subject matter.

Manipulate the game any way you see fit to fulfill YOUR campaign ideals.

This is a game , and if it is not engaging people will not fly it.
If it does not engage you then it won't engage anyone else.
Historical accuracy is difficult ( not impossible ) to achieve , but always ask yourself whether it suits your purpose
for your campaign.

You are not likely to get a lot of feedback whether your campaign is poor or excellent , so stick to your guns.
If you do get feedback ( hopefully from private testers BEFORE public release) , listen to it carefully and
if you can implement their thoughts without sacrificing your intent make some changes.

Enjoy your process.

Best of luck.

Kopfdorfer

Thank you very much,Kopfdorfer! To be honest, I did the "Pumak" campaign wholeheartedly, I put a part of myself. I will do the same with the next campaign.
Thank you again

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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2021, 07:28:16 AM »

I've read that piece myself and this is a most excellent subject.

Other than that, as an avid mission campaigner myself: What Kopfdorfer said :)
You must have some joy building it and not see it as a job to do. Don't overthink accuracy sometimes, the game has limits and AI will guarantee a different outcome any day ;)
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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2021, 07:36:23 AM »

Thank you,SAS~vampire_pilot! I don't know how long it will take to build the campaign,but I will do it to my liking and maybe others will like it too.

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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2021, 11:10:52 AM »

Hello everybody! I made a sketch on paper, and it looks like the campaign will contain 169 missions. France, the Battle of Britain, the English Channel front, the Mediterranean campaign, again in France, the Eastern Front, the English Channel front, the D Day landing, the Reich defense, Bodenplatte and the fights until the end of April 1945.I hope there will be no problems in the end, the maps with Germany must see what exists, a lot of work. Next year I will still be working on the campaign. Now I realize how big the project is. I hope I wasn't too greedy. ;)

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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2021, 04:41:04 AM »

Hello!

Can such a long campaign be started with the lowest rank? What should I consider and apply in building? To be the personal place in 1/1? Is there anything else? Thank you for your patience!
All the best!

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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2021, 07:44:06 AM »

Check these tutorials out :

Combining Missions into a Campaign
https://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Knowledge_Base&op=show&kid=326

Player Position in Campaign based on Rank , not on which plane is selected in FMB
https://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Knowledge_Base&op=show&kid=325

In my opinion it is a good idea to understand how to manipulate your missions by editing the .mis
file - this allows great flexibility in Mission Building beyond what is possible using only the FMB
.mis file entries explained
https://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Knowledge_Base&op=show&kid=437

There is much more out there , but these are good starting places.

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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2021, 08:19:25 AM »

Thank you very much! Stay safe!

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Re: JG 26 Schlageter static campaign
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2021, 08:51:52 AM »

Well done on tackling a large campaign, and have fun developing it. If you enjoy it the player should.

Regarding Vpmod pack and BAT. The two are no longer easily compatible  as VPmod has not been updated with the newer maps and aircraft etc. While both are excellent versions of Il2 1946, Von and I found converting between the two for the same campaign became a bit of a time-consuming chore, so BAT became our default version as it offered more variety in mission planning.


 
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