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[Scacco 1]

Hi!

I was building a self made mission in Chinese waters against a Boeing to glorify the first downing of an enemy plane accomplished by IJN in 1932 from a couple of Nakajima A1N2....

Before to play the mission I tried to accustom myself with the plane but when I was landing I noticed that I was unable to extend my tailhook and land correctly on the deck....

I check all the controls and the tail hook command is correctly set and working on the A2N and A4N....

I then research if the A1N have the tailhook and my source report that it have a tailhook in the tail skid....so a fixed hook....


From Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakajima_A1N ):

"While similar to the Gamecock, it was fitted with longer-span wings, internal flotation bags and arrestor hooks for carrier operations."


From Hakans ( http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/a1n.htm ):

"Gloster modified the Gambet prototype to meet the Imperial Japanese Navy’s requirements for a carrier fighter. This included building a stronger airframe, extending the wing to give better stability and to incorporating an arrester cable hook with the rear landing strut."

So my simple request is....please....

Can a tailhook be added to this crate that have the undoubtful honour of be the first to accomplish a victory in the IJN history?

If a fixed tailhook can be a not good option to be modded (I forgot the hook extended after a landing and I trap a cable when taking off again) maybe an invisible hook can be added with the tip positioned at the skid when extended....

Thanks in advance for your consideration of this post!

[Vampire_pilot]

Hm, apparently, there was no movable hook, but the tail skid was used to catch a cable.
Let's see if I can figure this out to work. You mention exactly the problem, but it might work nonetheless. You can take off planes with hooks extended in principle.

But it seems an invisible hook which extends slightly below the tail is best, to avoid conflict with the gear clip. I'll put it into the next hotfix pack

[Scacco 1]

Thanks Monty for your reply and your proposed fix!

You're really the million fix man!



About the hook this evening I'll try to test better how the planes behave with the tail hook.....

Some times ago , when practicing carrier landing I usually take off again after....in one of the first session I forgot to retract the tail hook and  it catch the next wires stopping me again.....I'll check again for sure.....

I the meantime my grateful thanks for the future fix!

Cheers

Scacco 1

[Scacco 1]

Hi again!

I have tested to take off with the arrestor hook down....the plane catch the cables and slow down , true is that the cable disappear quickly freeing the hook and allowing to reaccelerate....but taking off without issue is possible only when the last cable is left behind....

So my suggestion is to have a retractable invisible hook that when extended is about in the tail skid position....

Finger crossed....

Thanks a lot in advance for the fix!

[Vampire_pilot]

[Scacco 1]

[Scacco 1]

Hi!

I have tested the hook and all is fine with it!

Initially I was a bit hampered from the front struts and gunsight that reduce a lot the visible approaching path....but now I use the gunsight to approach the deck and last session I got a good 7 of 9 landing successful!

Next session I'll try to discover if changing view as I got the deck from gunsight to normal can help or not....and , if useful , also find the correct distance at which the switch view is optimal....

This is because if the approach is more simple than looking from the cockpit when landing I noticed from record that I can't preceive correctly the final height  and AoA.....

[Whiskey_Sierra_972]

Hi!

Any chance to have the modified classfiles to add in another non bat installation?

If I install original plane the tail hook isn't active....

[Frankiek]

you can dump the plane from BAT and get the tail hook fix

[Whiskey_Sierra_972]

No because the last working tail hook was with bat 411 and in 422 the tail hook was again unavailable....

I have no acces at  BAT 411 atm....

[Frankiek]

In BAT 4.2.2 TGA I can see the landing hook in the tail

I also checked the class file and code is there
   public A1N2_IJN()
    {
        arrestor = 0.0F;
    }

    public void moveArrestorHook(float f)
    {
        hierMesh().chunkSetAngles("Hook1_D0", 0.0F, -33F * f, 0.0F);
        arrestor = f;
    }

I didn't checked the FM as hook control need to be enabled there as well

however due to the low landing speed of this biplane I managed to land on the Akagi easily with no need for hook extension

[Whiskey_Sierra_972]

......

In BAT 4.2.2 TGA I can see the fixed hook in the tail being fixed it won't respond to the hook extension command however due to the low landing speed of this biplane I managed to land easily

Yes it has a low landing speed but I'm not able to land correctly on Hosho , the carrier used in my 1932 Shanghai missions....and the tail have only the skid , in real plane the hook was included in the skid but in the enabled classfile it was made retractable because otherwise in game the plane 'll hook the arrestor cable at every take off...making it unusable if spawned before the last cable....