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Dandolo513

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Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« on: January 20, 2022, 02:54:49 PM »

Hallo Gents,
one year ago i have posted a request concerning the Shiun . It was a case i have had news about this rare plane. But it was soon love.
So i have decided to try on realize a mod.
I have started from ZERO knowledge on 3d so it has been necessary to find a teacher. Zflyer48 (Mike) has answered to my call for assistance and He have brougth me to discover how use Blender .
I am started on April 2011 from great 101tsf's  3d model and from there i have realized a mod that has flied for first time on this last summer. The FM has been taken from IMAN RO 43 by Zflyer48.
After this first development i have been helped by CWatson who have supported me on classes and FM to realize floating gears's  folding, 2  60 kg bombs loadout  and rear machine gun .
The third  step has been realize with SAS vampire_pilot who have developed an FM to make Shiun a maritime patroller heavier than a fighter seaplane like Rufe or Kyofu, editing loadouts with two guns under wings as fictional.
The result of this long work is today a WIP.







On this path others modder have shared their time with me on tryng to find issues on my work: Stanislao that has hawk's eyes on finding meshes's issues, Stefano , queque and Hayate.

My huge grateful goes to my Mentor Zflyer48-Mike , who have done his precious time to my mod;
CWatson who have explained how realize floating gear's  folding; and SAS vampire pilot who have put "the icing on the cake" with his refined work on FM and making skinnable the plane.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/sdec2f1vkkmmj3b/E15K_Shiun_Test1_V_P_Rev_5.7z/file

Stanislao has realized a Skin for experimental version .



That's all.

It could be appreciated to receive suggestions to improve the quality of this my first work.

Best regards

Dandolo513



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MADMICK71

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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2022, 03:29:29 PM »


Great Job. Working well in 4.13. Animation for the floats retracting is excellent. Have cannon and bombs too.

Thanks.
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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2022, 04:14:55 PM »

Looks great! can't wait to test.

It will provide me with a new Japanese plane to shoot out of the sky.
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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2022, 04:19:33 PM »

Nice plane with nice shadows and skins!
But it's a pity that it dips its ass in the water!
In my opinion it lacks "waterclips"...
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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2022, 05:20:24 PM »

G'day Epervier

Can you give me a quick explanation or illustration of what "waterclips" are?
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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2022, 12:41:53 AM »

Waterclips are clips that represent a water line of sorts on seaplanes. it's a 3d mesh thing. They must be referenced by number in the FM.
They are there, it's a question of their placement. The plane usually can be seen sitting a bit tail heavy in pictures, so it's not that wrong.


That first screenshot is from an early wip and not what the plane looks today. The orange plane shows a better up to date position.

A few thing that I also did was make the gun barrels only visible when a gun loadout is selected and eliminating torque, since that's what the counter rotating props do.







Being plagued with many particular design features that never worked right, the plane was first flown in 1941 but only became operational in June 44, with only 15 examples built. It was the first Japanese plane to use a counter rotating propeller installation, driven by a Kasei 14 engine. Eventually this was the only feature that worked properly. It also featured a laminar wing profile,

The verdict from the field unit was abysmal.

- center float emergency jettison never worked at all. it was a flawed design.
- Stabilizing float retraction was shaky at best, with floats often refused to redeploy, causing accidents. In the field, they were operated fixed extended. This reduced top speed, which would have been about 470 km/h @5000m with center float attached and stabilizing floats retracted.

3 were lost to enemy action for all I know.
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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2022, 01:19:00 AM »

Thank you vampire_pilot for taking the time in writing a quick explanation.
Looking at your screenshots it's attitude in the water looks spot on.
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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2022, 01:41:22 AM »

... well, I was sent at least 2 WIP versions, in order to add several missing shadows, and at least in my game version, 4.09, the plane keeps rocking back and forth once on the water, and there's no stopping it ...  :-[

Even on quiet and flat water, the plane goes as deep as in Dandolo's first screen, but maybe this has to do with the 4.09 FM I use and there's no prob' with other FMs ... ;)
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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2022, 02:35:49 AM »

The old FM I first got was way off and had flaws, iirc also in regards to the clips.
Anyway, use this version (my FM is in it), and you should get what you see in the screenshots.

But I don't develop in 4.09, so the java is for 4.12 (SeaPlane). I don't know if other essential differences exist
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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2022, 02:37:11 AM »

If you are using a "special 409/UV3" FM then it is possible that in this FM the list of "waterclips" is incomplete!

Si tu utilises un FM "spécial 409/UV3" alors il est possible que dans ce FM la liste des "waterclips" soit incomplète ! Envoi-moi ton FM...

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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2022, 02:46:33 AM »

... will do, at least I'll be able to properly beta test this bird if need be ...  ;)
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Re: Kawanishi E15K Shiun-Norm
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2022, 04:37:10 AM »

Hallo ,
I have forgotten to give the credit to Mick , Who have realized shadows tryng to gain the best in spite the low quality of mesh i have sometime created.
I hope he will forgive me for late .
Best regards
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