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[Yaro59]

 On November 7, 1944, over the city of Niš -Yugoslavia, another "mistake" took place between the allies.
In a deadly aerial duel, P-38 Lightning from the 1st and 82nd Fighter Groups of the 15th Air Force of the USAAF with Yak-3s, 659th Fighter Aviation Regiment of the USSR short-circuited.
    An excerpt from a comprehensive description of the event:
"The Lightning pilots no longer had any doubt who they were fighting. The Russians also began to realize what had occurred. Some pilots on both sides began to tilt their planes from wing to wing, meaning 'don't shoot' (and also giving other pilots an opportunity to get a better look at the markings on the wings), but some of the Russians continued to behave aggressively. One Yak-3 took aim at Edwinson itself, but flew away, trailing a plume of smoke behind it when it came under fire from another Lightning. Lt. Sid Coulson on a P-38J (number 43-28662) was not so lucky. His fighter, ragged by an accurate series, collapsed to the ground with the pilot in the cabin."
https://www.konflikty.pl/historia/druga-wojna-swiatowa/bitwa-nad-niszem-amerykanskie-lotnictwo-armie-czerwona/



https://www.mediafire.com/file/ntfxakmjjsbtn70/Tragic_mistake.zip/file

[EHood]

Just about five years ago, Beebop created a mission based on this incident. The mission was built using a stock 4.10 installation. It would be interesting to see if anyone can modify the mission file for compatibility with BAT 4.2.1.

https://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=5370

[Yaro59]

                   Thank you EHood for the information.
            Of course I didn't know there was such a mission.
                          It would be good to modify it to B.A.T

[Knochenlutscher]

That's super easy.

1. Run the Mission via FMB in BAT, watch out for Errors, (Missing objects), check everything is as said in the .mis file (number of flights, targets assigned...)
2. if no errors, simply start Mission and try

It works. No Errors, nothing Missing.

[Dimlee]

About the Soviet aircraft in that incident.
8 x Yak-9 and 2 x Yak-3, all from 866th IAP took part in the dogfight.
4 x Yak-9T from 897th IAP arrived later and did not participate in the battle.
3 Yaks were shot down, one of them by the Soviet AAA. Two Soviet pilots died.

[emmett_grogan]

The Battle of Barking Creek

First British fighter pilot lost in WWII - to friendly fire.

'Allies'? More like 'Disorganised Rabble plus the Poles'.. 8~|

(emmett *ducks*)

[Yaro59]

The Battle of Barking Creek

First British fighter pilot lost in WWII - to friendly fire.

'Allies'? More like 'Disorganised Rabble plus the Poles'.. 8~|

(emmett *ducks*)

The example cited applies to RAF pilots and aircraft. Only and exclusively.
The event took place in the first week after the outbreak of World War II.
"Allies? More like 'Disorganized Rabble plus the Poles"- During any air battle involving a large number of aircraft, it gets a mill difficult to control, just read the memoirs of pilots(from whichever side), not only from World War II.
Does the word "Poles" mean Polish pilots ? ( maybe the translator's fault). Polish aviators at that time had someone to shoot at, and they certainly were not on England. The Polish sky was as dark as black crosses and swastikas, they did not have to shoot at each other.
 The mission is about the events that took place in November 1944. The participants were experienced American and Russian pilots.

[emmett_grogan]

Apologies, Yaro - the comment was mine and in no way meant as an insult to the Poles; quite the opposite, my intent was to contrast the 'disorganised rabble' with the single-minded intent of Polish armed forces toward the liberation of Poland, no matter who the aggressor.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for the efforts and achievements of Polish armed forces - air, land and sea. Along with many other Allied nations - the Greeks, Norwegians and Czechs, for starters - they punched far above their weight.

I regret any offence I may have caused you.

cheers

[Orge Schwab]

Do you also regret the offence you caused to British readers, Mr Grogan? Or did you mean to insult the Brits? It's a dumb-ass comment, if you don't mind me saying so.

If you knew anything about the so-called Battle of Barking Creek - which clearly you do not - you would know that it occurred very early in the war (Sept. 1939 for we Brits) at a time when radar direction of large formations was in its infancy. In fact, no-one else was doing it - certainly not the Luftwaffe or the USAAF. As a result of misdirection and misidentification of aircraft formations by ground controllers, an intercepting flight was advised to be on the lookout for enemy aircraft. Having primed the interceptors to expect German aircraft, it was almost inevitable that someone would open fire. A number of men were court-martialled afterwards, and the senior ground controller was removed and re-posted.

As a direct result of the inquest into the events of that day, British ground control procedures were revised and became second to none by the time of the Battle of Britain. In fact, they became extremely effective, thanks to improved reporting, tracking and observation.

The Poles who fought in the RAF during the Battle of Britain (and after), fought bravely. but they were the direct beneficiaries of earlier refinements to the radar control system in Britain, without which they could not have done so well. So they owed a great deal to the Battle of Barking Creek, even if they didn't know it.

[Yaro59]

          emmett, mate
 Absolutely do not feel offended.
As I wrote, I use the DeePL translator, unfortunately I don't speak English.
Automatic translation can make a lot of misunderstandings, as I have found out many times.
                   All is well.
                      Greetings and much health 

[Knochenlutscher]

When I did research for my recently upgraded
Me262 SkinPack I read about an incident in April
1945. A young Pilot from KG(J)54 was transferring a Silber from
Bavaria to Bohemia. He came under a stream
of bombers, and noticed shiny fighters blistering in the sun.
These sunglared escorts suddenly bounced
down towards what he could see a group
of Lavochkins that attacked the lower section of the stream. Both parties were so engaged that the stunned ferry pilot could make it safely to his destination.
The stream the Pilot detected in the german czech border region, heading north.

[Yaro59]

Just about five years ago, Beebop created a mission based on this incident. The mission was built using a stock 4.10 installation. It would be interesting to see if anyone can modify the mission file for compatibility with BAT 4.2.1.

https://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=5370

In the mission from -mission4today-you need to change the Slovaks to Americans, move the whole action from the borderless Soviet Union over the territory of the former Yugoslavia (as far as I remember the map of Yugoslavia already existed at that time) and some other details, surely there were more Soviet vehicles.
The mission will never be able to reproduce the facts, but at least the nationality of the parties and the place of the event should match, as long as it is FMB.