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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2022, 01:26:38 PM »

@Kopfdorfer
Thank you!

@Flamer50
Very useful, The Cavite pic with the PTO boats is interesting!
Btw, the Drydock USS Dewey had a moveing history during ww2!
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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2022, 03:14:15 PM »

Glad the info is useful, I found another source on the B-17C pic that I had included in the pack :

" A Boeing B-17C assigned to the 19th Bombardment Group at Iba Airfield,
approximately 100 miles (160 kilometers) northwest of Manila on the island of Luzon,
Commonwealth of the Philippine Islands, October 1941.
(U.S. Air Force Historical Research Agency) "

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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2022, 11:00:57 AM »

Hi Lonestar,

A bit of further info for you :
The only airfields "capable of use by heavy bombers" ( admittedly not a concrete definition )
in the Philippines in Dec 1941 were Clark , Iba and Del Monte #1.

Here is an excellent article on the Philippine Campaign of 1941-42 :
https://history.army.mil/html/books/005/5-2-1/CMH_Pub_5-2-1.pdf

You will note there is reference to an unnamed air base ( not defined whether for land based ac or seaplanes only )
"on a small island just south of Palawan".
I am working on finding more about this , as I didn't pick up on this tidbit when I first read this article a few years back.

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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2022, 06:17:36 PM »

Thanks both for the infos!
The article is really huge! If I have time, I'll take a look!
I test all airfields with B-17Ds! At least 8 should be able to take off fully loaded at the same time without any problems!
Some, like Clark No.1 or Del Monte, could take off with 16 at the same time!

New Airfields:
Iloilo
Mandurriao (repositioned)
Ormoc
Kindley
Clark Air Base (6 Fields, renewed & repositioned)
Malabacat (2 Fields, currently in works)

others:
Cavite Naval Base (Harbor & SPB)
Subic Bay Naval Base (Harbor & SPB)
Fort Stotsenburg (repositioned)

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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2022, 07:37:52 PM »

Hi all!
Short update, i am still adding Airfields to the map:

Orani
Pilar
Limay
Cabcaben
Santa Barbara
Lubao
Batangas
Tacloban (SPB)
Angeles (4 Fields)
Cagayan
Valencia
Maramag (3 Fields)
Malambang
Caldera (SPB)
Zamboanga
Zettle (repositioned)
Bacolod
Alicante (repositioned)
Carolina
Masbate (Field & SPB)
Davao (repositioned)
Matina
La Carlota
Dipolog

other locales:

Masbate Harbor
Cagayan Harbor (currently in works)

Most of the airfields were built before the war, so I won't split the map into several! But I will write behind the names of the Fields who built them!


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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2022, 02:18:11 PM »

Thanks for the update ]thumleft[

Cheers
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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2022, 02:22:29 PM »

The texturing could warrant an overhaul too. The bright yellow almost hurts my eyes!  ;) And the evident height contour that sets the commencement of the darker/forested ground really stands out as an artificial looking thing.

I could at least take a look at this aspect to see what would be involved...
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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2022, 07:26:21 PM »

At the Beginning of this project i provisionally created almost two dozen new textures to see how long it would take to retexture the map (not the .ini)! And I came to the conclusion "Too much time for me, maybe later"!
So if interested, here's a link to the textures. All (except the Airfield's) are from the Philippines Luzon Area:

JPG's: https://www.mediafire.com/file/4s7nbsfmb0shjmo/Phil_Tex.zip/file
TGA's & bumps: https://www.mediafire.com/file/x21fvs84ue5a3tu/Phil_tex_tgas.zip/file



I will make 3 more airfields and some ports! Then come's the road/rail network and then I'm done with the map from my side. Maybe next year a "October44 till EndofWar" version map but will see.

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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2022, 11:48:39 AM »

Lonestar,
I grabbed the TGA's you created. Their small size of 512 pixels, and the scale of such things as the trees and houses in some of them, would have required to make them small on the map, thus resulting in very pronounced tiling.  :(

I just fiddled about for an hour or so with a simple texture substitution, using some of my recent green Singapore stuff and the Imphal city texture from cyberolas's Burma map. Here's the first state of things, showing Manila.

I have yet to fill in the strange forest coverage gap at a certain height range (following a very exact contour), best done by simply painting them in on map_t.

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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2022, 01:04:22 PM »

Fixed the forest 'contour gaps', balanced the city texture via a little darkening, made the water a deeper blue.

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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2022, 03:18:33 PM »

Is the original DEM image available, for use in map_h? It would be nice to restore all the lower elevations--below about 50-60m, it looks like--from the zero-height vast areas they've been flattened down to. Just about everywhere there is a transition from artificially flattened seal level land at a 'wall' where suddenly the higher terrain occurs. In a number of instances there are airfields that closely abut such a wall, making the strip a one-way affair.   ;)  Fixing the airstrip situations is a breeze manually, but it's the lack of the gently undulating lowlands (amounting to hundreds of square kilometers) that looks so odd and unnatural.
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Re: Reworking the Philippine map
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2022, 04:33:02 PM »

The original Map_H is really flat compared to reality.  Getting real DEMs would make this more realistic.
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