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Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« on: December 03, 2022, 03:53:27 PM »

Would a nuclear weapon of that mass/size be doable to be implemented for the TU-95 in the Jet Age Module?



(This was posted in another section, since then I deleted it and moved it here given that this is more oriented towards this section).
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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2022, 04:25:22 AM »

   The real question is ….  WHY.?
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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2022, 04:28:18 AM »

   The real question is ….  WHY.?

Especially if the weapon was totally experimental and never became operationnal in quantity...
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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2022, 05:51:43 AM »

Would a nuclear weapon of that mass/size be doable to be implemented for the TU-95 in the Jet Age Module?



(This was posted in another section, since then I deleted it and moved it here given that this is more oriented towards this section).

I mean... yes? But IL-2 (not like it's special in this department) cannot support big explosions properly.

Real nuclear weapon (discounting the ionizing radiation) has two sources of damage:
  • pressure wave
  • thermal radiation

Pressure wave needs to travel over time; this is no issue for smaller explosions as it only travels couple hundred meters before it becomes non-factor. With nuclear weapon it expands for kilometers at the speed of sound, for RDS-202 it was still causing damage 50 km away, but it was not instantaneous, it was delayed by the travel time (allowing the carrier aircraft to escape). The wave also travels differently depending on altitude. With airburst explosions you also get the wave interacting with wave already reflected from the ground.

Thermal radiation travels at the speed of light and in that sense it's instantaneous. However the explosion radiates heat over an amount of time. This is not a factor for smaller explosions, but for nuclear explosion you will need a continous damage output which also takes into account line of sight and surface of the target.

Depending on the weapon, roughly half of the energy will be expended on the pressure wave, quarter to third on thermal radiation, rest on ionizing radiation

You could maybe get reasonable results with some deep recoding of the core of the game. For now each and every nuclear weapon has to be way weaker than their real counterpart (in terms of TNT equivalent) to be better representative of the actual area it damages. The actual damage is way out of proportion too.

I tried modifying the damage code a bit, got a bit closer, still no bueno.
But if you want to have your own go, you're welcome to try.
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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2022, 06:23:24 AM »

I Read the Full Documentary about that AN602 or RDS-202.

The Tsar Bomba, a 50 megaton of TNT of Thermonuclear bomb went off.

Here is a Full Documentary for Tsar Bomba




I watch many times.


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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2022, 01:26:49 PM »

If you really need this weapon … then you are playing the wrong flight sim.

My advice - get a different game… and a life 🙄
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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2022, 04:49:29 PM »

If you really need this weapon … then you are playing the wrong flight sim.

My advice - get a different game… and a life 🙄

I only asked if a mod of that quantity was doable to implement or lack thereof, not that It's a necessary commodity for me, sheesh...

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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2023, 11:24:48 PM »

please remember, that the 50 megaton bomb was only a half scale prototype proof of concept bomb.  They were designing a beautiful 100 megaton bomb.  They made this baby to see if something that size could actually detonate.


RUMOR has it, they actually built the full size bomb.
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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2023, 11:44:21 PM »

a beautiful 100 megaton bomb
"Beauty" is very much a matter of perspective.


RUMOR has it, they actually built the full size bomb.
Rumor? There's footage of it:



]cheers[
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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2023, 11:47:56 PM »

The top photo reminds me a bit of the old HALF LIFE 2.

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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2023, 12:13:47 AM »

a beautiful 100 megaton bomb
"Beauty" is very much a matter of perspective.

NO QUOTE PICS !!!

RUMOR has it, they actually built the full size bomb.
Rumor? There's footage of it:

NO QUOTE PICS !!!

]cheers[
Mike

that little video you posted..  did you realize in the modern world, getting caught doing that would most likely have you charged with terrorism? and at least with manufacturing/possessing illegal explosives?
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Re: Tsar Bomba (RDS-202)
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2023, 03:26:12 AM »

a beautiful 100 megaton bomb
"Beauty" is very much a matter of perspective.

NO QUOTE PICS !!!

RUMOR has it, they actually built the full size bomb.
Rumor? There's footage of it:

NO QUOTE PICS !!!

]cheers[
Mike

that little video you posted..  did you realize in the modern world, getting caught doing that would most likely have you charged with terrorism? and at least with manufacturing/possessing illegal explosives?
Welcome to the internet!
It doesn't take much searching to find instructions on making illegal doodads (bombs especially), only need a good VPN or 2.
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