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Questions about the various ordinances in BAT Part 1
« on: January 19, 2023, 02:07:25 AM »

Hello everyone,

While I am working on an Alternative Ordinance List (AOL) for BAT, there are vast information that surprised me.  It is my goal to give add the information to the equipment and weapons in weapon.properities.  With that, for any of us who are not entirely familiar with the ordinance purposes, we can use them properly in IL-2 1946 BAT while gaining the knowledges from them.

At the same time, there are times when the ordinance comes up without the specific names and I do not want to assume and give them inaccurate names by mistake.  Hence is why I have many questions here.  I appreciate the supports and knowledge from SAS community.  Here are the list of questions.




Douglas A-20C, 1941

Question #1:
IS it supposed to be 100lb instead of 100kg bomb?

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A-20C.2x100                                                                    2x 100kg bombs

Question #2
What kind of warhead are does these US bombs use? General Purpose or High Explosive?  Are they orignially made in Il-2 1946?  IF they are originally from Il-2 1946, what are their accurate name?

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A-20C.2x1008x100                                                               2x 100lb, 8x 100lb bombs
A-20C.2x1008x1002x100                                                          2x 100lb, 8x 100lb, 2x 100lb bombs
A-20C.2x3004x300                                                               2x 300lb, 4x 300lb bombs
A-20C.2x3004x3002x100                                                          2x 300lb, 4x 300lb, 2x 100lb bombs
A-20C.2x500                                                                    2x 500lb bombs
A-20C.2x5008x100                                                               2x 500lb, 8x 100lb bombs
A-20C.2x5004x300                                                               2x 500lb, 4x 300lb bombs
A-20C.2x5002x500                                                               2x 500lb, 2x 500lb bombs
A-20C.1x1000                                                                   1x 1000lb bomb
A-20C.1x10008x100                                                              1x 1000lb, 8x 100lb bombs
A-20C.1x10004x300                                                              1x 1000lb, 4x 300lb bombs
A-20C.1x10002x500                                                              1x 1000lb, 2x 500lb bombs



Douglas A-26K Invader, 1950

Question #3: I noticed there is 750lbs bombs next to Mark 80 series bombs.  Is this 750 lb known as M117 Demolition bomb?

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A-26K.4x750lbs                                                                 4x 750lbs bombs
A-26K.none                                                                     Empty



Vought AU-1 Corsair, 1946

Question #4: There are various 5" HVAR.  I realize that HVAR-AT have Anti-Tank purpose.  However, I am confsued with 'A" and "N" from two HVAR's below.  What kind of warhead or purpose do they serve as HVAR?

HVAR5A
HVAR5N



Fairey Albacore ASV, 1941

Question #5:  Since there are many different torpedoes in BAT and I want to make sure I give this torpedo the accurate name, in order, to avoid the confusion.  What is the name of this torpedo?

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Albacore-ASV.1xtorpedo                                                         1x torpedo



Arado Ar 196T-1, 1942

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Ar196T1.Torpedo_LTF5Practice                                                   Torpedo_LTF5Practice
Ar196T1.Torpedo_F5Bheavy                                                       Torpedo_F5Bheavy
Ar196T1.Torpedo_Fiume                                                          Torpedo_Fiume

Question #6:  Can I ask for the clarification if these renamed torpedo are historically correct name?

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Ar196T1.Torpedo_LTF5Practice                                                   1x F5B Practice Torpedo
Ar196T1.Torpedo_F5Bheavy                                                       1x F5B Torpedo (Heavy)
Ar196T1.Torpedo_Fiume                                                          1x F5w Torpedo (Fiume)



Breda Ba.65 (Fiat A80 RC41), 1936

Question #7: It is quite challenging for me to find the information on these ordinance.  What kind of bombs are they? What does 'M', 'IT', and (int) stand for?

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Ba65A80.4x50kg_Int                                                             4x 50kg M IT Bombs (int)
Ba65A80.4x50kg_Int_T                                                           4x 50kg T IT Bombs (int)



Bristol Beaufighter DAP, 1941

Question #8: I realize that British have vast variants of bombs from GP (General Purpose) to other types.  My question is are these bombs known as 'GP' bombs by default?

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BeaufighterDAP.2x250lbs                                                        2x 250lb bombs
BeaufighterDAP.2x500lbs                                                        2x 500lb bombs
BeaufighterDAP.4x250lbs                                                        4x 250lb bombs
BeaufighterDAP.2x500lbs+2x250lbs                                               2x 500lb, 2x 250lb bombs



Bloch MB.210 Verdun, 1935

Question #10: What kind of bombs and what type of warhead do Type A, P, No.1, and No.2 use?

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Bloch210.default                                                               Default
Bloch210.32x50kgA                                                              32x 50kg bombs type A
Bloch210.128x10kgP                                                             128x 10kg bombs type P
Bloch210.8x200kg                                                               8x 200kg bombs (Late)
Bloch210.14x100kg                                                              14x 100kg bombs (Early)
Bloch210.2x500kg                                                               2x 500kg bombs Modele 1930
Bloch210.2x500kg+6x100                                                         2x 500kg No1, 6x100kg bombs (Early)
Bloch210.2x500kg+2x200                                                         2x 500kg No2, 2x200kg bombs (Early)
Bloch210.none                                                                  Empty



Tupolev SB-2 M100A Skis, 1936

Question #11: IS ABK the containers for small bombs?  What kind of bobms are AO25m1 and AO2_5+60ZAB2_5 and what are their correct full name?

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SB_2M100AS.6x6xABK1_18AO25m1                                                   6x6xABK1_18AO25m1
SB_2M100AS.6x6xABK1_120AO2_5+60ZAB2_5                                          6x6xABK1_120AO2_5+60ZAB2_5



Martin-B-10(Floats) | 1936

Question #12: What is the name of torpedo B-10 carry?

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B-10_Floats.1xtorpedo                                                          1x Torpedo



Bristol Beaufighter MKX CC, 1941

Question #13: What is the difference between Default and 'Flaksuppressor' for both MGs and cannons?

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BeaufighterMkXCC.default                                                       Default
BeaufighterMkXCC.FS_8x60lbsRP                                                  8x 60lb RP, 6x .303, 4x 20mm 'Flaksuppressor'
BeaufighterMkXCC.FS_LR_8x60lbsRP                                               8x 60lb RP, 1x droptank, 6x .303, 4x 20mm 'Flaksuppressor'





Nakajima C6N1, 1944

Question #13: What is the name of torpedo C6N1 carry?

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C6N1.2x20mm_1xtorpedo                                                          Wings [2x 20mm cannons] 1x Torpedo



Handley Page Halifax B.III

Question #14: What does 'nha' mean in this ordinance list:

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HalifaxBMkIII.16x250                                                           16x 250lb Bombs (nha)
HalifaxBMkIII.24x250                                                           24x 250lb Bombs (nha)
HalifaxBMkIII.8x500                                                            8x 500lb Bombs (nha)
HalifaxBMkIII.12x500                                                           12x 500lb Bombs (nha)
HalifaxBMkIII.4x1000                                                           4x 1000lb Bombs (nha)
HalifaxBMkIII.6x1000                                                           6x 1000lb Bombs (nha)



Short Stirling Mark III

Question #15: What does H2S stand for and what do it mean?

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StirlingIII.H2S_18x250Lbs                                                      H2S 18x 250Lbs
StirlingIII.H2S_18x250Lbs_OneShot                                              H2S 18x 250Lbs OneShot
StirlingIII.H2S_16x500Lbs                                                      H2S 16x 500Lbs
StirlingIII.H2S_16x500Lbs_OneShot                                              H2S 16x 500Lbs OneShot
StirlingIII.H2S_18x500Lbs                                                      H2S 18x 500Lbs
StirlingIII.H2S_18x500Lbs_OneShot                                              H2S 18x 500Lbs OneShot
StirlingIII.H2S_12x1000Lbs                                                     H2S 12x 1000Lbs
StirlingIII.H2S_12x1000Lbs_OneShot                                             H2S 12x 1000Lbs OneShot




I appreciate all the helps and teachings from the SAS community.  As I have stated, I learn new things everyday.


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Re: Questions about the various ordinances in BAT Part 1
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2023, 04:20:06 AM »


Question #9: I am unable to find the information on both Swedish and Finnish bombs.  I need help from someone who have the information about the following ordinance:

Svenska

500kg M41
250 M41 Minbomb


Regarding the Swedish bombs the closest info I found was about:
500kg m/41 minbomb
250kg m/40 minbomb

The information is in Swedish, but should be understandable using an online translator IMHO, if not ask.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/500_kg_minbomb_m/41
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/250_kg_minbomb_m/40



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Re: Questions about the various ordinances in BAT Part 1
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2023, 05:22:33 AM »


Question #9: I am unable to find the information on both Swedish and Finnish bombs.  I need help from someone who have the information about the following ordinance:

Svenska

500kg M41
250 M41 Minbomb


Regarding the Swedish bombs the closest info I found was about:
500kg m/41 minbomb
250kg m/40 minbomb

The information is in Swedish, but should be understandable using an online translator IMHO, if not ask.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/500_kg_minbomb_m/41
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/250_kg_minbomb_m/40

Thank you for the links!  It is a big help and I will use it to add and rename both m/40 and m/41 in AOL project.

Cheers!
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Re: Questions about the various ordinances in BAT Part 1
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2023, 01:29:08 PM »

Please give a look at the original posts where I uploaded all these bombs and rockets - each bomb is shown with its original full name and details!
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Re: Questions about the various ordinances in BAT Part 1
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2023, 03:24:39 PM »

Please give a look at the original posts where I uploaded all these bombs and rockets - each bomb is shown with its original full name and details!

That is noted and I will look into it!  Thank you very much and If I still have the questions, i will post here too.

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