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[tomhighway]

Howdy,

I'm looking for help with an issue I have running BAT on my computer. If I have very many aircraft in the air, or if there are a lot of things going on like explosions and ground vehicle movement etc., I get stutters, and sometimes freeze frames that last for 10 or more seconds. It makes the game unplayable. I would like to be able to play in BAT because the graphics are better, and so are the choices of aircraft to fly.

Because of this issue, I don't play in BAT very often, and instead typically play VPMod or YPack. Those two modded version play flawlessly on my rig.

I am retired and living on a fixed income. I can't afford to spend several thousand dollars on a new rig. I'm kinda stuck with this one. I'm hoping that maybe a graphics card upgrade to something with more on board memory might fix the issue. The PCI-e slots on this rig are 1.0. I know it will support PCI-e 2.0 because that is what my current card is. I've read that version 2.1 and later will not work on my rig.

So, I will give some information about my very old rig, and maybe someone here who is more knowledgeable about such things can tell me if the problem is my CPU, or my graphics card, or both.


I'm running a Dell precision 490 with 8 gig of RAM and a 500 gig SSD hard drive.
Here are the CPU specs:

cpu:0
          description: CPU
          product: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU            5160  @ 3.00GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 400
          bus info: cpu@0
          slot: Microprocessor
          size: 3GHz
          capacity: 3800MHz
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 1333MHz
          capabilities: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl cpuid aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca lahf_lm pti tpr_shadow dtherm
          configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2 threads=2
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 700
             size: 32KiB
             capacity: 32KiB
             capabilities: internal write-back data
             configuration: level=1
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 701
             size: 4MiB
             capacity: 4MiB
             capabilities: internal varies unified
             configuration: level=2
     *-cpu:1
          description: CPU
          product: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU            5160  @ 3.00GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 401
          bus info: cpu@1
          slot: Microprocessor
          size: 3GHz
          capacity: 3800MHz
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 1333MHz
          capabilities: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl cpuid aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm dca lahf_lm pti tpr_shadow dtherm
          configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2 threads=2
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 702
             size: 32KiB
             capacity: 32KiB
             capabilities: internal write-back data
             configuration: level=1
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 703
             size: 4MiB
             capacity: 4MiB
             capabilities: internal varies unified
             configuration: level=2

The graphics card is a Silent Cell GV-N98TSL-1GI. It has 1 gig of on board memory.
The specs on the graphics card can be found here:     

https://www.quietpc.com/gv-n98tsl-1gi

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Tom.

[flying_dutchman]

Maybe some error has creeped while you installed the BAT through it's different stages. Completely uninstall your BAT mod. Visit the Facebook link below to download a Repack of BAT 4.2.2 made by an Ukranian guy. It is a easy to install.
https://www.facebook.com/IL2.BAT.RePack

[SAS~Storebror]

maybe a graphics card upgrade

Don't.
First, your graphics card suits the CPU quite nicely.
Both are somewhat ancient but should be good enough for general IL-2 usage if settings and mission complexity remain reasonable.
Second, FPS loss in crowded situations and/or when many effects (explosions) are visible in IL-2 is always an indication of either CPU-capped frame rates, or serious issues with the IL-2 installation. As long as otherwise frame rates are normal that is.
To rule out the latter, we'd need to take a look at the log.lst right after you have faced the issue.


Mike

[tomhighway]

Howdy,

Thank you both for your responses.

flying_dutchman,
I'm currently playing version 4.2.1, and only the WAW part of it. If it's determined that my install is the problem then I may try the version you referenced.


SAS~Storebror,
Good to know that my hardware is a good match, and that it should be adequate for this game.
So, I ran a mission this morning using both BAT and VPMod. Exact same mission with each version. 64 planes in the air on the Burma map, on autopilot. I'll include a screenshot that shows the frame rates in game for each. BAT on the left, VPMod on the right.
Here is a link to the log.ini file from the BAT install right after running the mission.

https://pastebin.com/cbxkbgVi

And just in case you are interested, here is the conf.ini I'm currently running in BAT.

Code: [Select]

;INI File: conf.ini
[il2]
title=Il2-Sturmovik Forgotten Battles
hotkeys=HotKey game

[window]
width=1920
height=1080
ColourBits=32
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
ChangeScreenRes=0
FullScreen=1
DrawIfNotFocused=1
EnableResize=1
EnableClose=1
SaveAspect=0
Use3Renders=0
WideScreenFoV=1
UIColor=0
UIDetail=0
UIBackground=en
Use3RendersUI=0

[GLPROVIDER]
GL=Opengl32.dll

[GLPROVIDERS]
Open GL=Opengl32.dll
DirectX=dx8wrap.dll

[NET]
speed=100000
routeChannels=0
serverChannels=31
localPort=21000
remotePort=21000
SkinDownload=1
serverName=No Name
serverDescription=
remoteHost=
localHost=
socksHost=
checkServerTimeSpeed=1
checkClientTimeSpeed=0
disableNetStatStatistics=0
showPilotNumber=1
showPilotPing=1
showPilotName=1
showPilotScore=1
showTeamScore=0
cumulativeTeamScore=0
showPilotArmy=1
showPilotACDesignation=1
showPilotACType=1
filterUserNames=0
reflyKIADelay=0
maxAllowedKIA=-1
reflyKIADelayMultiplier=0.0
reflyDisabled=0
allowMorseAsText=1
allowCustomSounds=1

[MaxLag]
farMaxLagTime=10.0
nearMaxLagTime=2.0
cheaterWarningDelay=5.0
cheaterWarningNum=-1

[chat]
region=(dx=0.6925,dy=0.071666665,x=0.0,y=0.0)

[game]
Arcade=0
HighGore=1
mapPadX=0.76944464
mapPadY=0.0046296297
viewSet=112
Intro=0
NoSubTitles=0
NoChatter=0
NoHudLog=0
NoLensFlare=0
iconTypes=3
eventlog=eventlog.lst
eventlogkeep=0
3dgunners=0
ScreenshotType=0
RecordingIndicator=1
MapAlpha=0.46
SaveTrk=0
SkipParatrooperViews=1
NoMissionInfoHud=0
noKillInfoHud=0
BlockMorseChat=1
SmallMapWPLabels=1
ShowMorseAsText=0
IconUnits=0
lowInfoHud=0
MapPadSmall=0
MapIconLarge=0
MapPadAlpha=0.6
hudMode=3


[HotKey game]
PrintScreen=ScreenShot
P=pause
Pause=pause

[HotKey gui]
Escape=activate

[HookViewFly Config]
timeFirstStep=2.0
deltaZ=10.0

[HookView]
MouseLeft=Len

[HookView Config]
AzimutSpeed=0.1
TangageSpeed=0.1
LenSpeed=1.0
MinLen=1.0
DefaultLen=20.0
MaxLen=30000.0
Speed=6
LeanF=0.2
LeanS=0.2
Raise=0.089999996
RubberBand=0.04

[HotKey builder]
MouseLeft=objectMove
MouseRight=popupmenu
Enter=freeView
Shift MouseLeft=worldZoom
Alt MouseLeft=select+
Alt MouseRight=select-
Alt Ctrl=unselect
PageDown=change+
PageUp=change-
End=change++
Home=change--
Ctrl MouseLeft=insert+
Insert=insert+
NumPad-0=insert+
F=fill
Ctrl MouseRight=delete+
NumPad.=delete+
Delete=delete+
Backspace=cursor
Tab=cursor
F10=land
F11=onLand
NumPad-=normalLand
NumPad+=toLand
NumPad-5=resetAngles
NumPad-8=resetTangage90
NumPad-7=stepAzimut-5
NumPad-4=stepAzimut-15
NumPad-1=stepAzimut-30
NumPad-9=stepAzimut5
NumPad-6=stepAzimut15
NumPad-3=stepAzimut30

[MouseXYZ]
F1=SpeedSlow
F2=SpeedNormal
F3=SpeedFast
MouseRight=XYmove
F4 MouseRight=Zmove
MouseMiddle=Amove
F5 MouseRight=Amove
F6 MouseRight=Tmove
F7 MouseRight=Kmove

[MouseXYZ Config]
RealTime=1

[HotKey Console]
Shift Tab=Activate
[Console]
HISTORY=1024
HISTORYCMD=1024
LOAD=console.cmd
SAVE=console.cmd
LOG=1
LOGTIME=1
LOGFILE=log.lst
LOGKEEP=0
LOGDEBUG=0

[sound]
SoundUse=1
SoundEngine=1
Speakers=2
Placement=0
SoundFlags.reversestereo=0
RadioFlags.Enabled=1
RadioEngine=2
MusicVolume=8
ObjectVolume=14
MusState.takeoff=1
MusState.inflight=1
MusState.crash=1
MusFlags.play=0
MasterVolume=14
Attenuation=7
SoundMode=1
SamplingRate=2
NumChannels=2
SoundExt.occlusions=0
SoundFlags.hardware=1
SoundFlags.streams=1
SoundFlags.duplex=1
SoundExt.acoustics=0
SoundExt.volumefx=0
SoundFlags.voicemgr=0
SoundFlags.static=1
VoiceVolume=6
Channels=2
SoundExt.extrender=0
SoundFlags.bugscorrect=0
SoundSetupId=8
ActivationLevel=0.02
Preemphasis=0.85
RadioLatency=0.5
AGC=1
PTTMode=1
SoundFlags.UseRadioChatter=0
SoundFlags.AutoActivation=0
RadioFlags.PTTMode=0
RadioFlags.PlayClicks=0
ActLevel=0
MicLevel=0
SoundFlags.forceEAX1=0

[rts]
ProcessAffinityMask=5
mouseUse=2
joyUse=1
trackIRUse=1
DisableIME=0
locale=
JoyProfile=0
UseSmartAxis=1

[rts_mouse]
SensitivityX=1.0
SensitivityY=1.0
Invert=0
SensitivityZ=1.0

[rts_joystick]
X=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Y=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Z=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
FF=0
U=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1X=3 7 17 27 43 65 85 100 100 100 100 10 0
1Y=3 6 12 23 33 45 64 81 91 100 100 10 0
1RZ=8 25 30 35 40 45 68 89 100 100 100 100 0
1U=3 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 10 0
1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1X1=3 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 10 0
1Y1=3 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 10 0
1Z1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RX1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1Z=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RX=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RY=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RZ1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1U1=4 5 17 25 30 38 50 58 80 91 100 10 0
1V1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1X2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1Y2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1Z2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RX2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RY2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RZ2=4 7 14 21 28 35 42 49 68 85 100 10 0
1U2=5 10 12 16 21 29 38 48 63 72 100 10 0
1V2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1X3=5 8 17 24 32 40 48 58 74 88 100 10 0
1Y3=5 8 17 27 35 48 56 69 80 91 100 10 0
1Z3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RX3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RY1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RY3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RZ3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1U3=4 6 11 26 48 100 100 100 100 100 100 10 0
1V3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0

[Render_DirectX]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=2
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=0
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=0
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=0
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=0

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=2
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=2
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=4
ForceShaders1x=0
PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=2
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=1
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=1

HardwareShaders=0

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=2
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=2
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=3
Water=1
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0
PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

[DGen]
AirIntensity=Low
;CampaignAI=Easy
CampaignDifficulty=Easy
;CampaignLength=VeryLong
;CampaignMissions=Easy
;GroundIntensity=Low
;HistoricalRanks
Maxbomberskill=0
MaxFLAK=0
;MissionDistance=50
NoActiveFrontline
NoAirfieldHighlight
;NoBadWeather
;PromotionRate=1.0
RandomFlights=0
;SlowFire=5.0
;UseGenericPhotos
;UseParkedPlanes
;UseParachutes
OperationVictory=3000
OperationDefeat=-3000
WarVictory=30000
WarDefeat=-30000

[Mods]
PALMODsColor=0
PALQMBLinesMap=10
PALQMBLinesPl0=25
PALQMBLinesPl1=20
PALQMBLinesPl2=19
PALQMBLinesPl3=18
PALQMBLinesPl4=18
PALQMBLinesPl5=18
PALQMBLinesPl6=18
PALQMBLinesPl7=18
BombBayDoors=0
RandomSplash=1
netCallsign=
TracersPlayer=400
TracersAircrafts=300
TracersWorld=25
TracersWirbelwind=5
HUDLogLines=3
HUDLogColor1=80FFFFFF
HUDLogColor2=10FFFFFF
HUDLogBottomColor1=80FFFFFF
HUDLogBottomColor2=10FFFFFF
ngHUDposition=0,0,0,0
ngHUDsector=1
ngHUDsubtitles=8
ngHUDmaptime=0
ngHUDpause=0
ngHUDfpsbar=0
ngHUDlogbottom=0
ngHUDloglines=3
ngHUDshiftmsg=40
ngMAPfriendly=1
ngMAPhostile=1
ngMAPfilters=1
ngMAPnoise=1

[rts_joystick1]
1X=3 53 72 87 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 10 0
1Y=3 34 54 76 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 10 0
1Z=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RX=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RY=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RZ=8 25 30 35 40 45 68 89 100 100 100 100 0
1U=3 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 10 0
1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1X1=3 33 53 74 86 100 100 100 100 100 100 10 0
1Y1=3 32 46 60 81 91 100 100 100 100 100 10 0
1RZ1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1U1=4 5 17 25 37 49 79 90 100 100 100 10 0
1V1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1X2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1Y2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1Z2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RX2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RY2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RZ2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1U2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1V2=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1X3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1Y3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1Z3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RX3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
FF=0
1Z1=0 100 99 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RX1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RY1=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RY3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1RZ3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1U3=4 6 11 26 48 100 100 100 100 100 100 10 0
1V3=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0


[SAS~Storebror]

HardwareShaders=1 in conf.ini should make a huge difference.
Perfect mode settings are listed here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,9756.msg185327.html#msg185327

[tomhighway]

Well, no joy.

Tried just changing hardwareShaders to "1". Didn't help the frame rate and the graphics didn't look as good. Seemed more pixelated.

Tried using the copy and paste [open GL] string for Nvidia cards. Made the frame rate worse, graphics looked good, but then it wouldn't let me play one of the missions I built in the FMB. The error message said something about human/russian/paratrooper/ mono.sim not created, and then it crashed  to desktop when I clicked "OK".

Any suggestions on where to go from here?

[Frankiek]

"human/russian/paratrooper/ mono.sim not created" this is a typical error due to lack of memory in your graphic card so to solve the issue you need to use texture compression in conf.ini

TexCompress=2
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1

It will also help to tone down a bit the other parameters in the OpenGL section.

Using hardware shaders=1  and the others maxed out settings will improve the looking but will ask more resources to your CPU and GPU and memory resulting in reduced playability so you need to compromise. As mentioned by Mike your system is "good enough for general IL-2 usage if settings and mission complexity remain reasonable" thus not really adequate for the settings that you are using.

You can try reducing the display resolution, or the quality of the textures it is a trial and error process  and depends on your priorities. You can also try to use UP3.4 that being a dedicated version for online player pays a lot of attention to resources needed and playability at the same time using the most recent and important mods.

Finally your log is showing an unusual high number of errors so in addition to the general considerations on your system capacity you need to have a look at your install and mods that you may have added.

[tomhighway]

Thanks Frankiek for your response.

I will give The "TexCompress=2" setting a try. The "TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1" is already set to  =1.

I may try re-installing BAT at some point, but turning the graphics down to get better frame rate isn't something I'm really interested in doing. I have VPMod and YPack both installed on my computer, and they both look really good and play flawlessly. If a fresh from scratch install of BAT doesn't fix the issue, then I will probably just live without BAT. At least until I win the lotto and get a new rig.  ;^)

Tom

[Frankiek]

If you can play flawlessly VPMod and YPack then you should also able to play BAT using the same settings. A fresh BAT install should be the way forward. When installing BAT pay attention to the Il2core.dll and Il2coreP4.dll that you will use (there are three or four different sets) as they play an important role in the correct display. Start with the defaults but if facing problems verify if changing them will make a difference.

[SAS~Storebror]

it wouldn't let me play one of the missions I built in the FMB. The error message said something about human/russian/paratrooper/ mono.sim not created, and then it crashed to desktop when I clicked "OK"

That's a known one and Frankiek already gave the right advise.
Background of this is an unsufficient texture buffer size, that's why using ARB/S3TC texture compression cures it.

Now that we know that your GPU has texture size issues, it's predictable that the HD textures which are default in BAT will cause issues for you.
That by the way is a main difference between BAT and VP/YPack: BAT is HD per default, the others are SD.

You can find corresponding DLL sets in the "BATDOCS/BATDLLS" folder.
Give set 00 "SAS-ModAct" a try, that's SD. But be aware that certain planes need HD DLLs to show up at all (e.g. the Lancaster in WAW module).


Mike

[tomhighway]

Frankiek,
I tried the "TexCompress=2" setting, and it didn't help that I could tell.

I don't have any other mods installed with my BAT install. I just checked it with the JSGME.EXE, and there are no mods installed.


SAS~Storebror,
I replaced the default .dlls with the ones from the BATDLLS-00. It did help a little, but not much. Now the frame rate doesn't drop below about 5 fps, whereas before it would drop to 0 or 1. Even so, 5 fps is pretty much unplayable.

It only does that extreme drop when I use X2 or X4 time compression. In normal time the game is mostly playable with the occasional stutter or short freeze frame, and the fps doesn't drop below about 11 fps (that's in the thick of things with the mini map open). But still, with VPMod or YPack, I can use up to X8 time compression and the fps never drops below about 32. And all of this is with many planes in the air, lot's of explosions from flak and bombs, and a lot of stuff on the ground.


Do you still recommend against changing to a graphics card with at least 4 gig of onboard memory? Or do you think there is something wrong with my BAT install?

In the near future, I'll be wiping my hard drive and upgrading my Operating System on this computer. If I'm going to do a fresh install of BAT, that would probably be the time to do it.

[Frankiek]

As mentioned BAT is a resource demanding install however you should be able to run it I don't know which resolution you are using but considering the CPU and GPU I would recommend to use 1600x900 if you would like to use conf.ini max setting not very high AA and x8-16 AF