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[Wing Walker]

I spend most my time in single player, would really love getting to fly against real live players again.

I always was the worst, but multiplayer IL2 was the best gaming experience ever, it been a long time. 

Explain to me please how I can do this again, I know players would have limited times.

Also, to expand...
Watching all the new Flightsims on yutube, I don't see much difference between our IL2  dogfight EXPERIENCES and the new stuff with the a/c being so technical. (I think us old IL2 Pilots would kick the ass of DCS pilots if in equal FM's... I mean they never heard of boom and zoom? )   They seem to think everything is a turn. 

I don't see many using aircraft specific tactics.  Though I just watch a few of the channels.  The difference in technical a/c management and physics of DCS and old IL2 seem to go away when you get into a turn fight. 

I mean I just feel WE think more about historical tactics specific to an aircraft we are in from what I've seen (based on my past online play)...

[Kopfdorfer]

Hi WW ,

I am a dinosaur , and I still fly HSFX 7.
If this interests you , pm me and I'll let you know the schedule and the
Teamspeak info.
We only have a few bodies , so you'd be more than welcome.

Kopfdorfer

[Thrasher]

Kopfdorfer a dinosaur!!!  I simply don't believe it

[Thrasher]

Hi Wing Walker

We Bluejays fly BAT 4.2.2  I'd be happy to walk you through it if you wish.

you can contact me at bluejaysquadron@gmail.com

BJ-Thrasher

[SAS~Storebror]

Hi Wing Walker,

You might want to pay our "official" game server a visit, see details here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/board,237.0.html

We are meeting every Sunday at around 3 PM GMT (standard time) / 2 PM GMT (daylight saving time).
The session length is 3~4 hours, but you can pop in and out at will.
Besides the Sunday session there's some activity on the server too, just pop in and see who you meet.

The Server is using Ultrapack 3.4 which you can grab here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,67406.0.html

Installation instructions can be found here:
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,61481.0.html

There are live streams available from several Sunday events, featured by KingTiger503:
https://www.youtube.com/@TheKingtiger501/streams

bomberkiller uploaded some videos from our last Sunday session too:
https://www.youtube.com/@bomberkiller9880/videos

Watching all the new Flightsims on yutube, I don't see much difference between our IL2  dogfight EXPERIENCES and the new stuff with the a/c being so technical. (I think us old IL2 Pilots would kick the ass of DCS pilots if in equal FM's... I mean they never heard of boom and zoom? )   They seem to think everything is a turn. 

I don't see many using aircraft-specific tactics.  Though I just watch a few of the channels.  The difference in technical a/c management and physics of DCS and old IL2 seem to go away when you get into a turn fight. 

I mean I just feel WE think more about historical tactics specific to an aircraft we are in from what I've seen (based on my past online play)...

I don't think so.
Being both an IL-2 and DCS player myself, I have to say that fights between WW2 aircraft are vastly different from fights with modern jets.
You can already get an idea of a small part of the differences when you play jets with guided missiles in Ultrapack (we only feature subsonic "silver barrels" in Ultrapack, it's a design decision, but the missiles already make a huge difference in tactics).
Whereas in a WW2 dogfight altitude means energy and energy means life, tables turn when guided missiles are involved: All of a sudden, altitude means exposure, and the deck is where you survive.
And that's just one tiny example.
My experience as a pretty old IL-2 fart who just lately joined the DCS gang is that "we" suck balls when starting to apply our well-trained tactics in a different era of dogfighting, just like probably anyone in real life would. Almost no one in IL-2 cares for "one-circle" vs "two-circle" dogfights. Try that in DCS...
To add to this, I also flew "Flying Circus" (WW1) in IL-2 Great Battles (nope, no "Rise of Flight" experience here) and even that is a completely different style of fighting than WW2 dogfights are.

If you are looking for a good DCS channel where fights are carried out to aircraft and loadout specific advantages, I'd recommend giving "Growling Sidewinder"'s channel a try:
https://www.youtube.com/@GrowlingSidewinder


Mike

[Wing Walker]

Hey everyone, thanks for the replies!

Is everyone still using Hyperlobby?  Can you still find people on there?

Whereas in a WW2 dogfight altitude means energy and energy means life, tables turn when guided missiles are involved: All of a sudden, altitude means exposure, and the deck is where you survive

I was talking about just the gun only fights actually.

I don't necessarily mean IL2 people would dominate with warbirds, fighting in the turn seems to give them an advantage that the Jet doesn't have to give.  Like ModernGun V WarbirdGun match ups, like the P-51 vs F-22 or P-47 vs A-10, but also same for Jet V Jet with only guns.

In these they get into the turn fight and that seems to be all there is, they don't just zoom away with the F-22 and come back making gun runs.

Growling Sidewinder is actually what I've mostly seen, cool channel.

[Thrasher]

We (the Bluejays) haven't used hyperlobby in years.

[raf1659]

I and my friends use Hyperlobby 

[SAS~Storebror]

Is everyone still using Hyperlobby?  Can you still find people on there?

Our FAC Gameserver is on Hyperlobby.
One of the few Hyperlobby servers where there's still activity.


Mike

[Wing Walker]

Is there a page somewhere of who has a server running now with IP's and version info?

[Dimlee]

The only one I know today.
http://il2.com.ru/en/links.php

SAS official server (mentioned by Storebror earlier) beats them all, IMO. Probably, the best server in the Il2 1946 history. The sheer amount of missions is mind-blowing.

[Draken]

we only feature subsonic "silver barrels" in Ultrapack, it's a design decision

I understand that the AA missiles are subsonic in " Cassie " .
Are they also subsonic in BAT ?