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HaFu1939

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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2023, 02:25:41 PM »

Thank you sou much... She's so lovely!
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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2023, 03:03:15 PM »

 :D


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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2023, 09:33:50 PM »

Beautiful work!!
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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2023, 07:25:31 AM »

Plane not have ejected seat yet. Maybe some one can help ?
Check your PM...  ;)


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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2023, 12:11:56 PM »

Added on first post.

Merci Epervier !
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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2023, 01:30:33 PM »

Cool, Thanks a bunch, Merci beaucoup  :)
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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2023, 03:35:06 PM »

Awesome, thank you very much to all involved, really appreciated. 8)

Take care and be safe.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete. ;D
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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2023, 04:06:28 PM »

Tell me please!
Should Tunnan have fm from Ta-183?
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[Aircraft]
  Type 1
  Crew 1
  Wingspan 11.00
  Length 10.00
  Seaplane 0
  Canard 0
  Jet 1
  JetHiV 1
[Mass]
  Empty 4500.0
  TakeOff 8000.0
  Oil 1.0
  Fuel 1160.0
[Controls]
  CAileron 1
  CAileronTrim 0
  CElevator 1
  CElevatorTrim 1
  CRudder 1
  CRudderTrim 0
  CFlap 1
  CFlapPos 3
  CDiveBrake 1
  CInterceptor 0
  CEngine 1
  CVectoredThrust 0
  CUndercarriage 1
  CLockTailwheel 0
  CStabilizer 0
  CArrestorHook 0
  CWingFold 0
  CCockpitDoor 1
  CAileronThreshold 500.0
  CRudderThreshold 600.0
  CElevatorThreshold 700.0
  DefaultAileronTrim 0.000
  DefaultElevatorTrim -0.150
  DefaultRudderTrim 0.000
[Squares]
  Wing 23.5
  Aileron 0.96
  Flap 0.1
  Stabilizer 1.8
  Elevator 0.84
  Keel 1.6
  Rudder 0.7
  Wing_In 4.0
  Wing_Mid 4.0
  Wing_Out 3.25
  AirbrakeCxS 0.2
[Arm]
  Aileron 2.8
  Flap 1.2
  Stabilizer 4.8
  Keel 4.8
  Elevator 5.3
  Rudder 5.3
  Wing_In 1.3
  Wing_Mid 2.8
  Wing_Out 3.4
  Wing_V 1.5
  GCenter 0.10
  GCenterZ 0.00
  GC_AOA_Shift 0.50
  GC_Flaps_Shift 0.22
  GC_Gear_Shift 0.00
[Toughness]
  AroneL 50
  AroneR 50
  CF 200
  Engine1 50
  Engine2 75
  Engine3 100
  Engine4 100
  GearL2 100
  GearR2 100
  Keel1 50
  Keel2 50
  Nose 50
  Oil 50
  Rudder1 50
  Rudder2 50
  StabL 50
  StabR 50
  Tail1 100
  Tail2 100
  Turret1B 100
  Turret2B 100
  Turret3B 100
  Turret4B 100
  Turret5B 100
  Turret6B 100
  VatorL 50
  VatorR 50
  WingLIn 80
  WingLMid 80
  WingLOut 80
  WingRIn 80
  WingRMid 80
  WingROut 80
  Flap01 50
  Flap02 50
  Flap03 50
  Flap04 50
[Engine]
  Engine0Family FlyGmotor:Tunnan_FM
  Engine0SubModel RM2B
[Gear]
  H 1.25
  Pitch 0.01
  SinkFactor 500.0
  SpringsStiffness 0.7
  TailStiffness 0.4
[Params]
  CriticalAOA 16.00
  CriticalCy 01.42
  CriticalAOAFlap 16.00
  CriticalCyFlap 01.70
  SpinTailAlpha 17.00
  SpinCxLoss 0.10
  SpinCyLoss 0.05
  Vmin 200
  Vmax 1200
  VmaxAllowed 1200.0
  VmaxH 1200.0
  HofVmax 6000.0
  VminFLAPS 150.0
  VmaxFLAPS 400.0
  Vz_climb 0.01
  V_climb 850.0
  T_turn 20.0
  V_turn 340.0
  K_max 18.0
  Cyo_max 0.15
  FlapsMult 1.0
  FlapsAngSh 3.0
  ReferenceWeight -60
  G_class_coeff 20.0
  G_class 12.0
  SensYaw 0.4
  SensPitch 0.55
  SensRoll 0.2
[Polares]
  lineCyCoeff 0.080
  AOAMinCx_Shift 0.0
  Cy0_0 0.12
  AOACritH_0 16.5
  AOACritL_0 -14.0
  CyCritH_0 1.2
  CyCritL_0 -0.7
  CxMin_0 0.020
  parabCxCoeff_0 6.0E-4
  Cy0_1 0.7
  AOACritH_1 14.0
  AOACritL_1 -17.0
  CyCritH_1 1.75
  CyCritL_1 -0.7
  CxMin_1 0.09
  parabCxCoeff_1 8.2E-4
  parabAngle 8.0
  Decline 0.002
  maxDistAng 40.0
  draw_graphs 0
[SOUND]
  Engine he_162
  Prop none
  Start j_start
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_29_Tunnan
And the motor has a weight of 2600 kg. traction on nominal?
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[RM2B]
  HorsePowers 1.0
  BoostFactor 1.2
  TowFactor 1.0
  Thrust 2600.0
It turns out interesting.  :) :-|
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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2023, 05:18:30 PM »



GOOD JOB!!!!

Future update request - a couple of AIM-9B Sidewinders......




Thank you.
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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2023, 08:56:16 PM »

Napalm would be cool too!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_29


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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2023, 05:28:51 AM »





Below is the ordnance available to the various models of J29L
Light ARAK
8 cm pansarraket m/46C (armour-piercing, RP-3)
14,5 cm pansarsprängraket m/49A (high-explosive anti-tank)
14,5 cm pansarsprängraket m/49B (high-explosive anti-tank)
15 cm sprängraket m/51A (high-explosive)
Heavy ARAK
18 cm halvpansarraket m/49 (anti-ship)
18 cm halvpansarraket m/49B (anti-ship)
JRAK
7,5 cm sprängraket m/55 "Frida" (high-explosive)
EAR
6 cm övningsraket m/54 (exercise)
6,3 cm övningsraket m/52 (exercise)
Drop Tanks
Fälltank typ 1 (400 liters, improvised incendiary)
Fälltank typ 2 (500 liters, improvised incendiary)
Bombs
200 kg brandbomb m/51 (incendiary)

J29B and J29F  - possible configurations:
Standard Light ARAK Loadout; 8 x rocket pylons w/ 8 to 14 light ARAK
Loaded Light ARAK Loadout; 8 x rocket pylons w/ 14 light ARAK, 2 x drop tank pylons w/ 4 to 8 light ARAK (18 to 20 light ARAK)
Standard Heavy ARAK Loadout; 4 x rocket pylons w/ 4 heavy ARAK
Loaded Heavy ARAK Loadout; 4 x rocket pylons w/ 4 heavy ARAK, 2 x drop tank pylons w/ 2 heavy ARAK (6 x heavy ARAK)
EAR Loadout; ? x rocket pylons w/ 8 EAR
Drop Tank Loadout; 2 x drop tank pylons w/ 2 drop tanks
Drop Tank + Light ARAK Loadout; 4 x rocket pylons w/ 8 light ARAK, 2 x drop tank pylons w/ 2 drop tanks (8 x light ARAK, 2 x drop tanks)
Incendiary Bombs Loadout; 2 x drop tank pylons w/ 2 incendiary bombs
 
J 29Es, while they still had the "ability", weren't allowed to carry ARAKs and instead carried JRAKs, air-to-air rockets or, more accurately, fighter rockets. Like the ARAK, in 1954 they managed to include up to forty JRAK by putting eight on each of the two drop tank pylons.
Below are the configurations possible for the J29E:
Standard JRAK Loadout; 6 x rocket pylons w/ 12 to 24 JRAK
Loaded Light JRAK Loadout; 6 x rocket pylons w/ 24 JRAK, 2 x drop tank pylons w/ 16 JRAK (40 x JRAK)
Drop Tank Loadout; 2 x drop tank pylons w/ 2 drop tanks
 

Swedish Rockets

14,5 cm pansarsprängraket m/49A
14,5 cm psrak m/49A)
Pansarvärnsraket (PVRAK): Anti tank rocket (HEAT)
The full name of the "m/49A" HEAT rockets was 14.5cm pansarsprängraket m/49.
m49A rockets have 500mm penetration + 3.5kg TNT explosive filler,and 410m/s velocity
The closest this comes to is the french T10 151 with 450mm penetration and 2.1kg TNT explosive and 390m/s velocity

18 cm halvpansarraket m/49 "Tiny Jörgen"
(18 cm hprak m/49)
Sjömålsraket (SMRAK): Anti ship rocket (SAPHE)
This must be differencied from the "m/49" SAPHE rockets (18cm halvpansarraket m/49) with a 80mm point blank penetration (43mm with the explosive - the 60 degree angle values don't change with distance same as the HE warhead numbers don't change) and 340m/s velocity.
The 18 cm halvpansarraket m/49 weighted 120 kg, but only carried 5,25 kg of TNT. It was an anti ship rocket.
Engine
The m/49 rocket engine is 18,5 cm and designed by Bofors. It has the fuse cables at the back and is so powerful that is has to be ignited at least a meter from the wing to not damage it.
Warhead
The m/49 has a 18,5 cm SAPHE warhead.
m/49 types
18 cm hprak m/49: original rocket, 5,25 kg TNT, fired from ramps, only used on the A 21A-3.
18 cm hprak m/49A: unknown changes (no service)
18 cm hprak m/49B: smaller swept interlocking fins (in game model), 5,3 kg TNT.


15 cm sprängraket m/51
(15 cm srak m/51)
Attackraket (ARAK): Attack rocket (HE)
The "m/51" rocket had an HE warhead with 39mm penetration and 420m/s velocity.
The 15 cm SRAK m/51 weighs 64 KG, and carries 4,5 KG of TNT

The m/49A and m/51 are siblings and share the same rocket engine just like the RP-3's. The rocket engine is 10,3 cm and designed by Bofors. The m/49A's engine has large fins for accuracy and has the fuse cables at the back. The m/51's engine has smaller fins to increase the spread and the fuse cables at the front.
Warhead
The m/49A has a 14,5 cm HEAT warhead and the m/51 has a 15 cm HE warhead.
m/49 types
14,5 cm psrak m/49: original rocket.
14,5 cm psrak m/49A: interlocking fins (did not see service)
14,5 cm psrak m/49B: smaller swept interlocking fins (in game model)
m/51 types
15 cm srak m/51: original rocket, 4,5 kg TNT.
15 cm srak m/51A: thicker filler, 4 kg TNT (better fragmentation effect).
15 cm srak m/51B: m/51A with ability to mount nose fuse which allows detonation at high angles (spetsrör m/55).


7,5 cm sprängraket m/55 "Frida"
(7,5 cm srak m/55)
Jaktraket (JRAK): Anti air rocket (HEI "Mine load")
7,5 cm sprängraket m/57
(7,5 cm srak m/57)
Jaktraket (JRAK): Anti air rocket (HEI "Mine load")
Engine
The m/55 and m/57 are siblings and share the same rocket engine. The rocket engine is 7,5 cm and designed by Bofors. The m/55 has fixed fins while the m/57 has retractable fins as it is shot out of a rocket pod (raketkapsel m/57).
Warhead
Both rockets uses the same 7,5 cm shu m/55 HE warhead. They are fitted with a contact fuse (ö hk sar m/55). Proximity fuse was deemed too expencive and unnecesary as modern radar lock gave extremely high accuracy. Only used in frontal engagements. Sidewinders used for flanking attacks. Proximity fuse might have been tested.
m/55, m/57B types
7,5 cm srak m/55: original rocket, only used on the Saab J29.
7,5 cm srak m/57: updated rocket for use in rocket pods, raketkapsel m/57. (No service.)
7,5 cm srak m/57A: unknown changes. (No service.)
7,5 cm srak m/57B: unknown changes.


13,5 cm sprängraket m/56
(13,5 cm srak m/56)
Attackraket (ARAK): Attack rocket (HE)
14,5 cm pansarsprängraket m/49/56
(14,5 cm psrak m/49/56)
Pansarvärnsraket (PVRAK): Anti tank rocket (HEAT)
Engine
The m/56 and m/49/56 are siblings and shares the same rocket engine. The rocket engine is 13,5 cm with fixed fins and designed by Bofors. It has the fuse cables at the front.
Warhead
The m/56 has a 13,5 cm HE warhead with the m/49/56 using a 14,5 cm HEAT warhead.
m/56 types
13,5 cm srak m/56: original rocket, 3,7 kg TNT.
13,5 cm srak m/56A: unknown changes.
13,5 cm srak m/56B: unknown changes.
13,5 cm srak m/56C: unknown changes.
13,5 cm srak m/56D: unknown changes. (manual literally gives the same stats as the m/56C so idfk)
14,5 cm psrak m/49/56: m/56 fitted with the same warhead as the 14,5 cm psrak m/49B, cannot double mount.

13,5 cm raket m/70
(13,5 cm rak m/70)
Attackraket (ARAK): Attack rocket (HE, HEAT, HEAT-MP)
Engine
The m/70 rocket engine is 13,5 cm and designed by Bofors. It has the fuse cables at the front. It is designed with retractable fins for use in rocket pods (raketkapsel m/70).
Warhead
The m/70 can be fitted with 3 warheads, two HE warheads, shu m/56/70 and shu m/70 and a HEAT warhead pshu m/70. The HEAT warhead can be configured as multiprupose by mounting a proximity fuse. This fuse can be used against both aerial and ground targets (overhead detonation).
Warheads
13,5 cm shu m/56/70: same warhead as m/56, 3,7 kg TNT.
13,5 cm shu m/70: HE warhead, 3,7 kg TNT.
13,5 cm pshu m/70 ö hk sar: HEAT warhead, 5 kg Composition B.
13,5 cm pshu m/70 zonar: HEAT-MP warhead, 5 kg Composition B. Here fitted with proximity fuse.

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Re: Saab J29 Tunnan
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2023, 10:11:54 AM »

Thank you for this mod and I let you know that it works without any problems on my dbw 4.10 8)
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