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[SAS~Storebror]

Thinking out of the box, did any of you RX 7000 users try Mesa3D already?
https://fdossena.com/?p=mesa/index.frag

Put the opengl32.dll into the IL-2 game folder and try to run the game in OpenGL mode.
May or may not work.


Mike

[Frankiek]

sound a little bit like the old trick (atiogl.dll) with the ATI cards and ......... drivers  

[SAS~Storebror]

It does make mesh viewer run on headless server via RDP so there is a little bit of hope, provided the CPU can take the additional load.
Only RX 7000 users can do the final check.

[WhiteSnake1976]

Thinking out of the box, did any of you RX 7000 users try Mesa3D already?
https://fdossena.com/?p=mesa/index.frag

Put the opengl32.dll into the IL-2 game folder and try to run the game in OpenGL mode.
May or may not work.


Mike

Sadly that doesnt help, remains the same as before as before only its glitching wen changing views and my CPU is getting much hotter than before.

Tried all 3 ways as it says on the site, but doesnt seem to help.

[Venator77]

Thinking out of the box, did any of you RX 7000 users try Mesa3D already?
https://fdossena.com/?p=mesa/index.frag

Put the opengl32.dll into the IL-2 game folder and try to run the game in OpenGL mode.
May or may not work.


Mike

I'll give this a go. I'm fairly confident my CPU can handle it.

[WhiteSnake1976]

Thinking out of the box, did any of you RX 7000 users try Mesa3D already?
https://fdossena.com/?p=mesa/index.frag

Put the opengl32.dll into the IL-2 game folder and try to run the game in OpenGL mode.
May or may not work.


Mike

I'll give this a go. I'm fairly confident my CPU can handle it.

Thats not the problem, CPU should run it fine though my Ryzen 9 7900X got a bit hotter than normal.

The problem is to get "perfect" graphics you need Hardwareshaders enabled (and some other setting that are linked to that wich can not be enabled/set higher)

If you look in your Conf.ini file you see it keeps changing "hardwareshaders=1" back to "hardwareshaders=0" no matter what you try, including making it Read Only wich prevents the file from being changed, but it seems the Game just overrulles it (or its not working because the card can not run it)

[SAS~Storebror]

Absolutely! Mesa3D is a software renderer, meaning it doesn't deal with Hardwareshaders. So, throwing in a "hardwareshaders=1" won't work—just won't. But here's the twist: it might come in handy if those AMD drivers decide to take a break in both DirectX and OpenGL modes by default. That's why I suggested someone give it a whirl. If it doesn't pan out, no biggie. It's all in the spirit of experimentation.


Mike

[WhiteSnake1976]

Absolutely! Mesa3D is a software renderer, meaning it doesn't deal with Hardwareshaders. So, throwing in a "hardwareshaders=1" won't work—just won't. But here's the twist: it might come in handy if those AMD drivers decide to take a break in both DirectX and OpenGL modes by default. That's why I suggested someone give it a whirl. If it doesn't pan out, no biggie. It's all in the spirit of experimentation.


Mike

Mesa3D didnt work, (and it caused graphics glitches wen changing views for a second or 2) i suspect it did not change a think because its a Software render, but i suspect that seeing what the game is doing by default (with out Mesa3D) that its already in a sort of "software render mode" by default because the cards do not suport the old OpenGL and Old OpenGL and DirectX Hardware Shaders.

So far to me DirecX mode looks pretty nice, running that in 4K res with all the enhancements of the AMD Radeon control center enabled.

Code: [Select]

[il2]
title=Il2-Sturmovik 1946
hotkeys=HotKey game

[window]
width=3840
height=2160
ColourBits=32
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
ChangeScreenRes=1
FullScreen=1
DrawIfNotFocused=0
EnableResize=0
EnableClose=1
SaveAspect=0
Use3Renders=0
WideScreenFoV=1
UIColor=0
UIDetail=5
UIBackground=rnd
Use3RendersUI=0

[GLPROVIDER]
GL=dx8wrap.dll

[GLPROVIDERS]
Open GL=Opengl32.dll
DirectX=dx8wrap.dll

[NET]
speed=1000000
routeChannels=0
serverChannels=31
localPort=21000
remotePort=21010
SkinDownload=1
serverName=No Name
serverDescription=
remoteHost=148.251.238.135
localHost=
socksHost=
checkServerTimeSpeed=1
checkClientTimeSpeed=0
disableNetStatStatistics=0
showPilotNumber=1
showPilotPing=1
showPilotName=1
showPilotScore=1
showTeamScore=0
cumulativeTeamScore=0
showPilotArmy=1
showPilotACDesignation=1
showPilotACType=1
filterUserNames=0
reflyKIADelay=0
maxAllowedKIA=-1
reflyKIADelayMultiplier=0.0
reflyDisabled=0
allowMorseAsText=1
allowCustomSounds=1
remoteHost_000=

[MaxLag]
farMaxLagTime=10.0
nearMaxLagTime=2.0
cheaterWarningDelay=5.0
cheaterWarningNum=-1

[chat]
region=(dx=0.6734375,dy=0.0712963,x=0.0,y=0.0)
adr0=ALL

[game]
Arcade=0
HighGore=1
mapPadX=0.66875
mapPadY=-0.047222223
viewSet=33
Intro=0
NoSubTitles=0
NoChatter=0
NoHudLog=0
NoLensFlare=0
iconTypes=3
eventlog=eventlog.lst
eventlogkeep=0
3dgunners=1
ScreenshotType=1
RecordingIndicator=0
MapAlpha=0.99
SaveTrk=1
SkipParatrooperViews=0
NoMissionInfoHud=0
noKillInfoHud=0
BlockMorseChat=0
SmallMapWPLabels=1
ShowMorseAsText=0
IconUnits=0
lowInfoHud=0
TypeClouds=1
mapPadMode=1
mapZoomMode=0
mapWheelMode=1


[HotKey game]
PrintScreen=ScreenShot
P=pause
Pause=pause

[HotKey gui]
Escape=activate

[HookViewFly Config]
timeFirstStep=2.0
deltaZ=10.0

[HookView]
MouseLeft=Len

[HookView Config]
AzimutSpeed=0.1
TangageSpeed=0.1
LenSpeed=1.0
MinLen=1.0
DefaultLen=20.0
MaxLen=3000.0
Speed=6
LeanF=0.2
LeanS=0.2
Raise=0.089999996
RubberBand=0.04

[HotKey builder]
MouseLeft=objectMove
MouseRight=popupmenu
Enter=freeView
Shift MouseLeft=worldZoom
Alt MouseLeft=select+
Alt MouseRight=select-
Alt Ctrl=unselect
PageDown=change+
PageUp=change-
End=change++
Home=change--
Ctrl MouseLeft=insert+
Insert=insert+
NumPad-0=insert+
F=fill
Ctrl MouseRight=delete+
NumPad.=delete+
Delete=delete+
Backspace=cursor
Tab=cursor
F10=land
F11=onLand
NumPad-=normalLand
NumPad+=toLand
NumPad-5=resetAngles
NumPad-8=resetTangage90
NumPad-7=stepAzimut-5
NumPad-4=stepAzimut-15
NumPad-1=stepAzimut-30
NumPad-9=stepAzimut5
NumPad-6=stepAzimut15
NumPad-3=stepAzimut30

[MouseXYZ]
F1=SpeedSlow
F2=SpeedNormal
F3=SpeedFast
MouseRight=XYmove
F4 MouseRight=Zmove
MouseMiddle=Amove
F5 MouseRight=Amove
F6 MouseRight=Tmove
F7 MouseRight=Kmove

[MouseXYZ Config]
RealTime=1

[HotKey Console]
Shift Tab=Activate
[Console]
HISTORY=1024
HISTORYCMD=1024
LOAD=console.cmd
SAVE=console.cmd
LOG=1
LOGTIME=1
LOGFILE=log.lst
LOGKEEP=0
LOGDEBUG=0

[sound]
SoundUse=1
SoundEngine=1
Speakers=4
Placement=0
SoundFlags.reversestereo=0
RadioFlags.Enabled=0
RadioEngine=2
MusicVolume=14
ObjectVolume=14
MusState.takeoff=0
MusState.inflight=0
MusState.crash=0
MusFlags.play=0
MasterVolume=14
Attenuation=7
SoundMode=1
SamplingRate=2
NumChannels=3
SoundExt.occlusions=0
SoundFlags.hardware=1
SoundFlags.streams=1
SoundFlags.duplex=1
SoundExt.acoustics=0
SoundExt.volumefx=0
SoundFlags.voicemgr=0
SoundFlags.static=1
VoiceVolume=14
Channels=2
SoundExt.extrender=0
SoundFlags.bugscorrect=0
SoundSetupId=8
ActivationLevel=0.02
Preemphasis=0.85
RadioLatency=0.5
AGC=1
PTTMode=1
SoundFlags.UseRadioChatter=0
SoundFlags.AutoActivation=0
RadioFlags.PTTMode=0
RadioFlags.PlayClicks=0
ActLevel=0
MicLevel=0
SoundFlags.forceEAX1=0

[rts]
;ProcessAffinityMask=1
mouseUse=2
joyUse=1
trackIRUse=1
DisableIME=0
locale=
UseSmartAxis=0
JoyProfile=0

[rts_mouse]
SensitivityX=1.0
SensitivityY=1.0
Invert=0
SensitivityZ=1.0

[rts_joystick]
X=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Y=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Z=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
FF=1
U=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1X=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0 0
1Y=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0 0
1RZ=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1U=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0
1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0 0

[Render_DirectX]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=1
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=0

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=0
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=2
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=17
Water=2
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0
PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=0
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=0
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=0
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=1
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=1
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=0

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=0

Shadows=1
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=2
LandShading=2
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=2
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=17
Water=2
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0
PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.0625
PolygonOffsetUnits=-1.0

[DGen]
HistoricalRanks=1
CampaignLength=Medium

[Mods]
Stabs4All=0
NewTrackIR=0
AutoNtrk=0
Darkness=9
Diffuse=9
EventLogFlushTimeout=1000
LogFlushTimeout=1000
UPCockpitInertiaEnabled=0
UPCockpitInertiaValue=0.075
UPGunnerInertiaEnabled=0
UPGunnerInertiaValue=0.01
UPFollowInertiaEnabled=1
UPFollowInertiaPositionValue=0.01
UPFollowInertiaAngleValue=0.01
UPExternalIntertiaEnabled=1
UPExternalIntertiaValue=0.075
UPExternalTrackIREnabled=0
UPGameMenuStatusBar=1
UPGameMenuShowFPS=0
InstantLog=2
HighSpeedNet=1
AddDefaultCountryNone=0
useNetLogin=0
netLogin=
useNetLoginUser=0
netLoginUser=
useNetCallsign=0
netCallsign=
SkinDownloadNotifications=1
6dof_usezoom=1
6dof_usezoomc6=1
6dof_gfactor=1.0
6dof_tfactor=1.0

Might still be able to tweak these setings a little further, but it looks good so far.

[Frankiek]

My two cents
TexMipFilter=3
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=0
Forest=3

[WhiteSnake1976]

My two cents
TexMipFilter=3
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=0
Forest=3

Texmipfilter is overridden by the AMD settings, TexCompressARBExt is related to TextureCompression, so if thats off, then the other is also off, but your right, TexMipFilter=3 and TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=0 would be correct

I think Forest=3 is related to Hardwareshaders, so think it wil jump back to 0 on its own but i give it a shot and try 1 and 2 also if 3 doesnt work.
EDIT: Forest=3 is indeed related to Hardwareshaders so it does not work, Forest=2 works fine though.

Didnt look much into the current Conf.ini i am using, its basicly a back-up version, that was working properly.
Got an other problem with my FFB2 Joystick right now.
EDIT: My Sidewinder FFB2 needs to be "Refresh"ed in the Input screen everytime i start the game or i got no Force Feedback...

[Crazily6857]

Both - cloud corruption and ability to activate Hardware shaders=1 is going to be fixed in AMD's driver in the first quarter of 2024.
You are welcome

[Venator77]

Both - cloud corruption and ability to activate Hardware shaders=1 is going to be fixed in AMD's driver in the first quarter of 2024.
You are welcome

Do you have a source for that?