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bearjs

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BAT engine management
« on: January 29, 2024, 02:29:56 PM »

I want to get more into complex engine management, and I was wondering what the best resource/guide was to learn complex engine management for each plane.

Also I was wondering if BAT changes anything about engine management? I just want to make sure that if I do find a guide on vanilla engine management, I will be able to use it while playing with BAT.
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Re: BAT engine management
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2024, 03:57:56 PM »

Hello bearjs, about engine management you can check out previous post dealing with overheating, which some members have dealt with BAT Lounge/Re: Overheating Dec. 20 2021....The basic engine controls that are used for complex engine management will be:
The Manifold Pressure  Gauge, which shows how much Vacuum is being generated within the Intake manifold as the throttle is increased or decreased, either in Inches or Millimeters of Mercury.
The Propeller Pitch control which will control the amount of power is being delivered to the Propeller, this makes sure that you don't over Rev the engine, which can frag it's self, then you are Kaput!
The Mixture control which controls the amount of fuel being introduced into the engine, as you increase altitude the air becomes less dense so you need less fuel so adjust it as you climb, some aircraft do this automatically some do not.
The Supercharger position is also an item to take into consideration, some aircraft have an auto feature some do not..ie..Spitfire/auto...Zero/ Manual the aircraft guide shows which aircraft have this feature and at what altitude you must change from low to high , I hope this helps
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Re: BAT engine management
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2024, 06:24:11 PM »

Hello bearjs, about engine management you can check out previous post dealing with overheating, which some members have dealt with BAT Lounge/Re: Overheating Dec. 20 2021....The basic engine controls that are used for complex engine management will be:
The Manifold Pressure  Gauge, which shows how much Vacuum is being generated within the Intake manifold as the throttle is increased or decreased, either in Inches or Millimeters of Mercury.
The Propeller Pitch control which will control the amount of power is being delivered to the Propeller, this makes sure that you don't over Rev the engine, which can frag it's self, then you are Kaput!
The Mixture control which controls the amount of fuel being introduced into the engine, as you increase altitude the air becomes less dense so you need less fuel so adjust it as you climb, some aircraft do this automatically some do not.
The Supercharger position is also an item to take into consideration, some aircraft have an auto feature some do not..ie..Spitfire/auto...Zero/ Manual the aircraft guide shows which aircraft have this feature and at what altitude you must change from low to high , I hope this helps
Thank you! ill have a look at the manual and keep those things in mind. Do you know if the aircraft guide is still up to date with version 4.12.2 and also with BAT? I'm not sure if BAT changes how the engine management works on planes.
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Re: BAT engine management
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2024, 05:16:18 PM »

There is a complex engine management mod out there somewhere i had it when I still flew HSFX.

The big thing I remember most was propeller pitch being really important, you could easily over torque the prop suddenly and cause the plane to shift hard if you tried to take off with it too high.  Not so much in BAT.

I really liked having to manage the engine more.
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Re: BAT engine management
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2024, 03:28:37 PM »

Regarding the prop pitch, SB-2 was the most sensitive a/c in my practice. Run it at 100% for a minute or two in a horizontal flight and you overheat the engine. Forget to reduce it below 70% or so in a shallow dive and you damage the engine. But I didn't fly SB-2 for a long time, it could change in the latest versions.
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Re: BAT engine management
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2024, 04:25:26 PM »

There is a complex engine management mod out there somewhere i had it when I still flew HSFX.

The big thing I remember most was propeller pitch being really important, you could easily over torque the prop suddenly and cause the plane to shift hard if you tried to take off with it too high.  Not so much in BAT.

I really liked having to manage the engine more.


I think the mod you are talking about used to be called AOC, with that mod on you could control and set a certain number of parameters for engine management. That mod was further refined and today the one that are still going that way are the EMS (https://escadre-ms.vraiforum.com/index.php) with their IES pack that has reached version 4.1 and is available for download
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Re: BAT engine management
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2024, 06:14:29 PM »

I do not think that the Aircraft Guide has been updated to keep up with the latest version of BAT, but is still a useful resource, I have been thinking about diving into this subject at least for the info page on the game, the new aircraft have virtually no info as to dimensions, engine operating specs, flight ops...ie..Takeoff RPM, Maximum continuous RPM, Cruise  RPM, Manifold Pressures for takeoff, climb out, max continuous and cruise. History of the design, the year it was developed, first flight, when it entered service, first combats and subvariants developed during the aircrafts life time in service, boring to some but interesting to others, I am very HAPPY that the new aircraft are added just kind-a wish the info on the aircraft was added as well, so it will fall to others to fill in the missing data, I am lucky that I have a decent library of older manuals and tech data from the 30's-40's on the various engines used to enable some of that to be uploaded, a good source for aircraft data is the reprint of Jane's Aircraft  of World War I and World War II, I have these as well as original copies of Aircraft Design and Engineering Technical Books....Have Fun and enjoy the Game for what it offers, Still going Strong Thanks to all those who contribute and those who appreciate their talents...BAT RULES! SAS RULES!....no I am not biased...heh heh heh!
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