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Filippo1995

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WW1 Italian Front 1918
« on: June 06, 2024, 05:09:23 AM »

Hello everyone,

After many years of absence I'm back to the community and I'd like to share with you my latest project; a somehow more accurate map of the italian front after the battle of Caporetto.
This map is based on the modified WW1 Italian Front by gio963tto, which features the correct course of the Piave river.

What I've done is very basic, I've reused the WW1 trench and no man's land texture that come with DBW 1916 and painted them along the December 1917 to October 1918 frontline. Since the number of tiles available for each map is limited I had to replace two strings of the city tiles, hence I also had to simplify the appearance of the cities.

I have also added some airfields along the frontline for both the italians and the austro-hungarians.

Since I was already there, I also made a winter version, which is actually an adaptation of the Winter WW1 Italian Front made by Vampire Pilot.

Every object that I have used on the map comes from 4.10 DBW 1916 v4.1, so there shouldn't be any compability problem if you use that version. Anyway let me know if there are any.

Download link

https://www.mediafire.com/file/mopykaj74w43zmx/Italian_Front_1918.7z/file
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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2024, 05:15:13 AM »

Here are some pictures:




Overall view of the map





Trenches along the Piave River





Monte Grappa





One of the new airfields





This is a picture of the old frontline, the one from 1915 to late October 1917, there are no more active trenches, however the earth is still scorched from the almost 3 years long conflict fought there





The Piave river during the winter of 1917-1918





Monte Grappa in winter
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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2024, 05:46:37 AM »

Bel colpo Filippo, non mi resta che provarla  ;)
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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2024, 05:53:24 AM »

Very cool!

I did a winter retexture for this map once. I am curious about the new airfields.

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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2024, 05:58:56 AM »

Bel lavoro!  ]salut[

Potresti aggiungere qualche aeroporto/campo di volo? Quelli esistenti sono pochini, qualche riferimento:

Nice Job!
Could you please add some airport/airfield? The current ones are very few, some references:

http://www.ilfrontedelcielo.it/files_12/121_00_aeroporti.htm

http://www.ilfrontedelcielo.it/files_12/121_00_mappe.htm

http://www.ilfrontedelcielo.it/files_12/121_00_veneto1.htm

http://www.ilfrontedelcielo.it/files_12/121_00_veneto2.htm

Grazie  :)
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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2024, 06:38:00 AM »

Grazie per l'incoraggiamento ragazzi, la mappa che ho postato è in fase di sviluppo, quindi più informazioni riesco a reperire e meglio è. A dire il vero 3 dei 4 campi di volo che messo sono in realtà dei finti campi volo. Durante il 1918 sia i nostri che gli austriaci crearono dei campi fittizi per ingannare il nemico. I nostri due erano a nord ed a sud di Treviso. Praticamente il loro compito era quello di ingannare i bombardieri austriaci durante la notte tramite segnali luminosi in codice e farli atterrare  sugli stessi. Una volta a terra sarebbero stati poi attaccati e distrutti dalle forze terrestri predisposte a ciò. Il campo fittizio austriaco, invece, era solo un diversivo per i bombardamenti. In ogni caso vedrò di aggiungere i campi che mi hai indicato raf1659. Grazie mille.

Thanks for the encouragement guys, the map I posted is a work in progress, so the more information I can find the better.  To tell the truth, 3 of the 4 airfields I listed are actually fake airfields.  During 1918 both our and the Austrians created fictitious camps to deceive the enemy.  Our two were north and south of Treviso.  Practically their task was to deceive the Austrian bombers during the night using coded light signals and make them land on them.  Once on the ground they would then be attacked and destroyed by the ground forces prepared for this.  The fictitious Austrian camp, however, was only a diversion for the bombings.  In any case I will try to add the fields you indicated to me raf1659.  A thousand thanks.

Vampire Pilot, it is indeed your retexture, I have simply adapted to my modifications.
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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2024, 04:29:45 AM »

Update

I have added some airfields to both the italian and the austro-hungarian side. They are in majority italian, but when I'll find also some sources about the austro-hungarians one I'll add them too in the right amount.

The new airfields are of three types, big ones with concrete structers, medium ones with wooden and light structures and bare landing fields with just some canvas tents to cover the planes.

Actually there's also an extra "airfield" in this case is the Airship landing zone. The sources of raf state that there are 3 of them on the italian side; one in Verona and two around Mestre and Venezia. Same as above for the austro-hungarian ones, if I find some sources about them I'll gladly add them.

P.S. If you have any info feel free to share, it will greatly improve the development because the airfields depicted are based on what they might have looked like at that time.


Now pictures time




Airship Landing Zone, this is the biggest of the three, the one near Venezia.





A very basic landing field near the frontlines, the one depicted is an austro-hungarian one.





Airfields improvement. This is the situation as today.
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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2024, 08:47:09 AM »

The Italian airfields are with their national territory, so i suppose them being somewhat elaborate makes sense.

The Austrian ones were definitely just very basic field bases in this front area.  If you want to know about some basic locations, check out my mission sets for Austria-Hungary. I have put some recherche into all of them, including their bases of operations for the FliKs I chose.

The good thing with DOF is, all these planes can take off and be landed in the wilderness, if it is just basically level. You do not need a real "runway" to operate them. Makes it easy to put a field base anywhere.

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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2024, 10:42:44 AM »

Thank you very much! I'll give a look at your missions. Just a question while we are at it, is it better DOF or DBW 1916 in terms of airplanes and ground units? DBW offers a nice array of planes and thanks to some extra mods a little bit of ground units. The downside is that it runs on 4.10 and many functions of 4.12.2 are not available.
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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2024, 10:55:36 AM »

DOF I would say

BAT DOF was developed off of DBW 1916. It also has more stuff put in over time  as well as all the mission building functionalities, like C&C and triggers. Maps wise, it has all the concrete runways of the standard maps replaced with grass and things like that.

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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2024, 11:49:30 AM »

That's great! I'll shift to DOF immediatly then!
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Re: WW1 Italian Front 1918
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2024, 03:32:32 AM »

Ottimo !   :)

Per quanto riguarda le strutture Austro-Ungariche puoi fare riferimento a questa mappa:
http://www.ilfrontedelcielo.it/files_12/121_00_doc.htm

Non vedo l'ora che la mappa sia disponibile in BAT!


Regarding the Austro-Hungarian structures you can refer to this map:
http://www.ilfrontedelcielo.it/files_12/121_00_doc.htm

I can't wait for the map to be available in BAT!
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