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[gunny0134]

Have you ever seen a formation flight of Bristol_F2b ?
  - on 4.12.2m, BAT 4.1_DOF Stock ver

Try flying about four squadrons on QMB or FMB.

Then one or two will make a crazy flight. It's constantly spinning....

I even feel dizzy when I'm staring it. I'm like that too, but what should he do with the rear gunner !!

How can't we fix it ?

Thank you.

Screenshot from: https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,72663.0.html

[Vampire_pilot]

This happens with some WW1 Flighmodels which are too "edgy" for the AI under certain formation condition (speed and altitude, following AI or player)

There is no fix short of canning the FM in question and build a completely new one, then testing it intensely. I could not say which parameters are causing it and my opinion is, it is a mix of everything not fitting properly because one or several parameters are tuned to extremes in relation to others. But which is anyone's guess and may differ from case to case.
I have only seen this with slow constant speed-prop aircraft, so I assume the way the emd is build in relationship to the fmd also plays a part.

[gunny0134]

Among similar plane models, Airco DH9 showed the most stable formation flight.

So, I plan to try editing and using Airco DH9 instead of Bristol_F2b in the campaign or single mission if possible in the future.

Thank you.

[Frankiek]

I suppose that all WWI planes should have fixed gear propellers variable pitch propellers being introduced in the thirties

[Vampire_pilot]

Yes, they do, that's not the point.

This behavior is a "WW1 FM" issue and all the parameters that come into play there may contribute. Engine response to keep speeds to a point is one of them.

Airco DH9 showed the most stable formation flight.

So an approach could be to take the DH9 FM and twist it a bit to the performance envelope of the F2b.

They are roughly the same size and weight, their top speed is only 10 mph apart (irl! in-game I have no idea)... could work convincingly.

[UberDemon]

I am finishing up the Gallipoli template so that I can release it as an update to the UQMG 1946 Max Public PreAlpha and I noticed this behavior as well.  There were no crashes but it is weird, and the #4 Pfalz E3 does this weird thing at times where they go absolutely into a vertical dive than shoot up back as the first three keep going.  I mean, these are not a part of the original intent in IL-2 so it is OK, but I figure there is a way to fix it.  I'd do it if I knew how.

[Frankiek]

I have only seen this with slow constant speed-prop aircraft

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