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Whiskey_Sierra_972

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Monitor refresh rate and response time....how high end is needed?
« on: September 04, 2024, 09:35:41 AM »

Hi mates!

I'm in the process of change the actual monitor....with a 4K 16:9 flat one.

Wondering about what should be his refresh rate and response time....but in conjunction with game performance....and consequently with his final price....

I'm asking because IL2 engine is a bit old and actually high refresh rate are always related as needed for modern games benchmarks....

I have always read that is better to play with a normal/limit of 60hz because the game have anyway possible frame issues (and a 60hz limitation can help in these condition) while having higher frame rate doesn't give a better image quality....is it right?

Moreover playing in the past with less powerful rig I got invasive stutter but actually I have no more it and I can't be sure that a higer refresh rate of 60hz could improve game apparence....

About response time IIUC it is related to the fluidity of the images when moving POV or with moving objects....so about this I can think that in this area a lower response time could be useful to give images a better quality....

Can some experts give me some tips about?

Thanks in advance for your help....
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Re: Monitor refresh rate and response time....how high end is needed?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2024, 09:57:36 AM »

Interesting..I await any answers to this as well.
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Re: Monitor refresh rate and response time....how high end is needed?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2024, 09:59:20 AM »

Monitor response time refers to the time it takes for a pixel to change from one color to another, typically measured in milliseconds (ms). This is crucial for reducing motion blur and ghosting, especially in fast-paced activities.
Most monitors have a response time under 10 ms, with gaming monitors often boasting response times as low as 1 ms.
Lower response times are particularly important for gamers, as they help ensure smoother visuals and reduce lag.
TN (Twisted Nematic) panels generally offer the fastest response times, while IPS (In-Plane Switching) and VA (Vertical Alignment) panels may have slightly higher response times but better color accuracy and viewing angles.
For flightsims, I'd recommend an IPS panel with less than 5ms response time.

Refresh rate shouldn't be fixed at all.
Depending on the GPU, a monitor with AMD's FreeSync or Nvidia's G-Sync is the way to go.
G-Sync is pretty expensive, but many FreeSync monitors are compatible with Nvidia GPUs. Nvidia has enabled support for adaptive sync on a wide range of FreeSync monitors, allowing them to work with GeForce GTX 10-series, GTX 16-series, and RTX 20-series or newer GPUs.

To use a FreeSync monitor with an Nvidia GPU, follow these steps:

1. Connect via DisplayPort: Ensure your monitor is connected to the GPU using a DisplayPort cable, as HDMI may not support adaptive sync.
2. Enable FreeSync: Turn on FreeSync or Adaptive Sync in your monitor's settings.
3. Nvidia Control Panel: Open the Nvidia Control Panel, go to "Set up G-Sync," and enable G-Sync for your FreeSync monitor.
4. Adjust Settings: Make sure to set the highest refresh rate for your monitor and disable V-Sync in your game settings for optimal performance.

Some popular FreeSync monitors that are known to work well with Nvidia GPUs include:

- AOC G2590FX: A 1080p monitor with a 144Hz refresh rate and 1ms response time.
- LG 27GL83A-B: A 1440p monitor with a 144Hz refresh rate and IPS panel.
- Samsung Odyssey G7: A 1440p monitor with a 240Hz refresh rate and curved display.

Further information on FreeSync vs. G-Sync: https://www.techspot.com/article/2780-freesync-vs-gsync/

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Re: Monitor refresh rate and response time....how high end is needed?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2024, 10:36:22 AM »

So if I have a 165 Hz monitor, I should set it to that refresh rate in control panel.
I didn't realise that disabling V-Sync would increase frame rates.
Thanks.
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Re: Monitor refresh rate and response time....how high end is needed?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2024, 11:05:56 AM »

Hi Mike!

You're always a must!

Thanks for your reply!

The V/G sync info is a very important aspect to look at and change all what I thought about frame rate!

For your information the monitor I was looking for is the biggest I can put in my cockpit position....this one:

https://rog.asus.com/monitors/above-34-inches/rog-swift-pg38uq/

I think that this could be perfect with IPS panel with a 1ms response time and G-Sync compatible (btw I have a GTX1660super)

@Old_Dad

IIUC the V/G sync enable the monitor to have the same real time frequency of the GPU exit so it 'adapt' to what the rig is giving it to show....

About this:

4. Adjust Settings: Make sure to set the highest refresh rate for your monitor and disable V-Sync in your game settings for optimal performance.

Where in the conf.ini the v-syinc is placed? I have give it a look but haven't find nothing....
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Re: Monitor refresh rate and response time....how high end is needed?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2024, 11:33:22 AM »

Enabling/disabling V-sync is not in conf.ini but in your Nvidia settings
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Re: Monitor refresh rate and response time....how high end is needed?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2024, 12:01:46 PM »

Ahhhhh....

Thanks!

I don't use NVidia panel very often....
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Re: Monitor refresh rate and response time....how high end is needed?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2024, 12:34:16 PM »

well you just need to touch it one time to optimize your GPU settings for IL2fb.exe then you can leave it until the next time you will upgrade drivers\GPU.
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Re: Monitor refresh rate and response time....how high end is needed?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2024, 02:00:24 PM »

Good Thread, Thanks for asking and explanation

Will try here

Tobi
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Re: Monitor refresh rate and response time....how high end is needed?
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2024, 03:16:10 PM »

Many thanks for reminding to disable V-sync with G-sync available and on.
I did read related stuff after purchasing a new monitor (Asus VG259QR), but I just checked the Nvidia control panel, and the V-sync was still on.
Another reason to like this forum.  8)
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