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[shardana]

Have a look and tell me what you think.....

http://facetracknoir.sourceforge.net/home/default.htm

[5./JG54_s0crazty]

I have see that again , they use the same technology for the Drone aircrafts in US !Anyone confirms that this works with IL2?

[shardana]

just downloaded, I'll try it tomorrow and i'll report if it works and how..... at the moment I use free track...

[Messer]

FreeTrack (for headset) works, I don't see why this should. I've (okey, my father actually) modified a simple Logitech webcam by adding the film from a floppy disk as an IR filter, and a simple baseball cap with three IR LEDs - works as smooth as a professional TrackIR. No problems in Il-2 whatsoever.

 

[shardana]

Yes I have also freetrack, but i'm curious to see if this software without a headset works well enough with il2....

[V4Friend]

Indeed, I'm just curious what the software's system load is and how well it performs.

So far, Freetrack does it's thing just perfect.
I didn't even needed to mod my cam for it.

Update:
Could not get this thing running without having to download & install all sorts of confusing stuff.
Missing dll files require to download something like FaceApi where you have to register, bla bla bla..

Update 2:
Gave it another try, downloaded the apparantly much-needed Headtracking Demo with FaceApi from Seeingmachines, only to discover that both programs (Headtrack Demo and FaceTrackNoIR) are incompatible with my cam.
(Creative VF0470 USB notebook cam)
My Skype, FreeTrack and many other tracking & video-devices think otherwise, so the FaceTrackNoIR and FaceApi programmers have a long way to go before they should present such software to the public.

Final verdict:
Waste of my time, back to FreeTrack.
Too much hassle. Period.

  

It was a bit too good to be true.

Hello Eexhaton and other IL-2 aviators,

I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get it working: a lot of others did! I know that the installation procedure could (or can) be easier. It's a bit difficult to make it easy for everyone, cause there are so many different PC-configurations possible...

Next to the FaceTrackNoIR downloads (version 1 and the second update of the .exe), you need .NET framework 3.5. Most people have that already, but if you don't it will be downloaded by the setup-program. Unfortunately, some users also need the faceAPI from SeeingMachines, for some DLL's (needs improvement, I know). The demo is only to verify that your web-cam is supported by the faceAPI.

I cannot imagine why it should not work with your web-cam. Maybe it's a driver issue? How do you know it's not compatible: do you get any errors suggesting that? If the faceAPI demo works, FaceTrackNoIR also will. Some users found that they needed to remove other software using the web-cam, before the faceAPI works with it.

I (and luckily many other gamers) don't agree with you, about releasing the software as it is: it's totally free, requires no LED's or headsets, works (for many) and feedback from users is the best way to improve open-source software!

I hope you will try it (again). Have fun!

V4Friend 

[Eexhaton]

~S!~ V4Friend,

I might have sounded quite harsh, and really i'm not trying to degrade your software and it's free availability, as it's a great idea and you've put alot of effort into it.

I was put off by the trouble I had to go through installing - especially finding the proper files and not being aware of the requirement of FaceApi software DLL's.
That kind of information should be supplied with the software, as I deem it vital for users to have crystal clear installation instructions.

Now the Seeingmachines Demo did'nt recognise my cam, simply saying it could'nt find any connected cam, while it was connected to my computer - USB port.
Reconnecting, rebooting, reinstalling, it all did'nt work.
An extensive google search also left me quite empty-handed, as there is little information regarding your software, FaceApi or it's respective problems. 
Even the help on Seeingmachines.com was very limited in that regard.

Still, I pushed on, installed the Demo again, followed by FTNoIR, but in the end, still no dice.

In total time, I spend about 7 hours doing research, installing, trying etcetera, and that put me off.
I'm really willing to give your software a go - who'd else would spend an entire day looking for a solution?

So, i'm all open for suggestions, pointers, hints, tips, tricks and all, as currently, I can't use Freetrack anymore atm, due to not having it at my current location.

Regards,

Eexhaton

Edit: Thanks CirX for moving it to a proper location! 

[V4Friend]

Hello Eexhaton,

Well, if you have spent that much time already, I can understand you kind of lost faith  :'(
Considering the fact that your web-cam works with other Windows-applications, I think it should be possible...

The only thing I know for sure about the requirements is that the camera must be a 'WDM-compatible video input device'. The faceAPI uses some Windows functions to retrieve the first available WDM-compatible input device and I have made a similar function in FaceTrackNoIR to show the name of the 'active' camera (above the Settings). Apparently your cam is not (yet) recognized as such 

A friend of mine had problems getting his camera to work too. He un-installed all software that could use his camera (also software like Skype) and then it worked. You might try adding a new user-account to your PC and try it on that?
I'm almost sure it has something to do with the device-driver(s) and other software 'claiming' your web-cam.

Hope this works (and does not consume 7 precious hours again  )

V4Friend

[Stirwenn222]

I tried your sofware and spent few hours around... for nothing till i understood that i'd never be able to make it work if i don't  change my OS : i'm using Windows 7 Pro 64 in N series (without several parts from  Microsoft as Windows media player and so...). Some Dll are missing and it means to much time to grab them in the web.

[V4Friend]

I tried your sofware and spent few hours around... for nothing till i understood that i'd never be able to make it work if i don't  change my OS : i'm using Windows 7 Pro 64 in N series (without several parts from  Microsoft as Windows media player and so...). Some Dll are missing and it means to much time to grab them in the web.

Hi Stirwenn,

Thanks for your feedback. Indeed some have reported problems getting it to work on W7 (I don't have it...). SeeingMachines states that the faceAPI is not compatible (yet). There are however other users, for which it works fine on W7 

[Eexhaton]

Hello Eexhaton,

Well, if you have spent that much time already, I can understand you kind of lost faith  :'(
Considering the fact that your web-cam works with other Windows-applications, I think it should be possible...

The only thing I know for sure about the requirements is that the camera must be a 'WDM-compatible video input device'. The faceAPI uses some Windows functions to retrieve the first available WDM-compatible input device and I have made a similar function in FaceTrackNoIR to show the name of the 'active' camera (above the Settings). Apparently your cam is not (yet) recognized as such 

A friend of mine had problems getting his camera to work too. He un-installed all software that could use his camera (also software like Skype) and then it worked. You might try adding a new user-account to your PC and try it on that?
I'm almost sure it has something to do with the device-driver(s) and other software 'claiming' your web-cam.

Hope this works (and does not consume 7 precious hours again  )

V4Friend

Lol, tough crowd here, looking at the above posts.

I have not tried uninstalling/reinstalling my webcam, webcam using apps, or made a new user account yet.
I went far, but not that far yet.

I'll be trying it when i've got the time for it.

Ofcourse I hope that all this feedback in this topic is helpful enough for an improved next version

[V4Friend]

I want to try it but after unpacking ... no reedme no nothnig. Then after instaling i had ippcore-5.3.dll not found (i try to serch for it but all i got is some free scans programs and warnings about posible bad stuff in this)

Hello Satan,

There is a readme.txt file in the installation folder (after you install it) and another in the ZIP-file for the update. The ippcore error is a known problem which some users get. It has to do with Intel-drivers, and you need to download an IPP-library to fix it (http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/ipp-downloads-registration-and-licensing/#Downloading)

I have never seen the problem myself, but some ArmA-gamers have (see http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=100530&highlight=ippcore&page=4 to read 'all' about it).

I want to make a 'known issues' section in the website, but have not had the time for it yet (holidays and all  ).

@Eexhaton:

Lol, tough crowd here, looking at the above posts.

You're right. There is something I noticed since releasing FaceTrackNoIR however: people who don't have problems often don't post in forums    It would be nice if they did...

Success,

V4Friend